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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 06:43 PM
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Moody's: Neither debt plan protects the nation's AAA rating
Moody's: Neither debt plan protects the nation's AAA rating
By Peter Schroeder - 07/29/11 05:11 PM ET

The "limited magnitude" of both debt plans put forward by congressional leaders would not put the nation's AAA credit rating back on solid footing, Moody's Investors Service announced Friday.

"Reductions of the magnitude now being proposed, if adopted, would likely lead Moody's to adopt a negative outlook on the Aaa rating," the credit rating agency said in a new report. "The chances of a significant improvement in the long-term credit profile of the government coming from deficit reductions of the magnitude proposed in either plan are not high."

It added that "prolonged debt ceiling deliberations" have increased the odds of a downgrade, but that the firm is still confident policymakers will avoid a default.

"It remains our expectation that the government will continue with timely debt service," the firm said. It also clarified that as far as it is concerned, the nation will only default if it misses an interest or principal payment on U.S. debt, not if it misses payments on other obligations like federal employee salaries or Social Security benefits.

more:
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/801-economy/174447-moodys-neither-plan-protects-the-nations-aaa-rating
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 06:48 PM
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1. Is anybody else taking this as extortion?
Pay wall street first, or else.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:11 PM
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2. U.S. Contingency Plan Gives Bondholders Priority
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1603742#top

"Prioritizing Payment

The Treasury has in the past said it cannot pick and choose which bills to pay in the event it can’t borrow enough to cover all its obligations, a process members of Congress called “prioritization.”

Further reading, though, it says

In 1985, the Government Accountability Office released a legal opinion affirming Treasury’s authority to prioritize payments. No administration has taken advantage of that opinion.

from:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-28/u-s-contingency-plan-gives-bondholders-priority.html

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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:23 PM
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3. They're doing to us what Nixon did to Chile in 1973.
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 07:30 PM by kenny blankenship
The ratings agencies are accomplices of the banks and both should have been prosecuted together for the massive trillion dollar fraud pyramid they made of our economy. Obama let them go, and behold the result of coddling criminals: they are trying to throw the election to the Republicans to get rid of the one side who MIGHT just regulate them, resist their class warfare (which is probably just in its opening phase with a Blitz soon to come), and subject them to criminal investigations.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 08:49 PM
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4. Whatever happened to Neil Barofsky?
I pinned waaay too much hope on that guy.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 01:24 AM
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5. How to lose friends in Washington: Be TARP cop
http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2011/04/05/how-to-lose-friends-in-washington-be-tarp-cop/


FORTUNE -- Neil Barofsky has been chasing bad guys for much of his professional career. Whether it was as an assistant US Attorney in the Southern District of New York or in his most recent gig as the man trying to make sure hundreds of billions of government money doesn't get stolen by scheming bankers, he is naturally prone to suspicion, if not outright distrust.

"My view of financial institutions is colored by my years as a prosecutor," Barofsky says. "None of this surprises me. They are profit-driven corporations that seek to maximize profitability without much regard to social gain."

This squinty-eyed attitude made him an effective special investigator general overseeing the Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP -- which is to say, the guy policing the banks and auto companies that received $411 billion from taxpayers. But as the mood in Washington has shifted away from confrontation toward accommodation, Barofsky has become a lonely voice of dissent.

After more than two years as the SIGTARP -- an acronym of off-putting proportion -- Barofsky resigned on March 30. "When I first started this job in 2008, I felt like there was a collaborative effort with the Treasury Department," he says. "We were in the trenches together. Then my job turned into blunting the effects of their bad decisions. And then it just devolved into battling with Treasury itself. I used to have a weekly meeting with them, but I didn't have one after late September."


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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-27/washington-follows-path-to-credibility-downgrade-neil-barofsky.html

Washington Follows Path to Credibility Downgrade: Neil Barofsky

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This follows previous warnings of other calamitous deadlines that have come and gone with little tumult, such as Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner’s January claim that the debt limit had to be raised no later than March 31. That deadline passed, followed by a series of other supposed moments of truth in June and July, and most recently, the proclamation by congressional leaders that a deal had to be announced by 4 p.m. this past Sunday before the Asian financial markets opened.

Fortunately, these predictions, so far, have been off the mark. While there may have been market shudders, the predicted Great Panic of 2011 hasn’t struck.

Treasury’s warnings raise two important questions. Why has it served up visions of the apocalypse time and again and what have been the costs of it being wrong?

The most obvious cost has been an incremental loss of credibility, with even the oft-cited Aug. 2 deadline for Congressional action now widely questioned. Reluctant Congressional Republicans, Geithner’s intended audience, long ago lost their faith in Treasury and view the deadline warnings as mere political spin.

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http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2011/07/28/bailout-watchdog-says-homeowners-shortchanged/

Bailout Watchdog Says Homeowners Shortchanged‎



The federal watchdog that oversees the Wall Street bailouts is questioning whether the Obama administration has done enough to punish mortgage companies for poor performance in its main loan-assistance program.

The watchdog’s office is officially known as the Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program. It has been run by Acting Special Inspector General Christy Romero since Neil Barofsky, the office’s first director, left to teach law at New York University earlier this year. Mr. Barofsky was a thorn in the Obama administration’s side, issuing strongly worded critiques of the housing programs and the 2008 bailouts in general.

In a quarterly report released Thursday, the inspector general’s office supported the Treasury Department’s decision, announced in June, to sanction mortgage servicers for poor performance in the government’s Home Affordable Modification Program. However, the report questioned whether enough companies have been punished. “Clearly, many homeowners are not getting the fair shake they deserve from some of the largest servicers in determining who gets the benefit of a HAMP mortgage modification,” the report said.

The Treasury Department in June moved to withhold millions of dollars in fees from Bank of America, Wells Fargo and J.P. Morgan Chase, saying they need to improve how they administer loan workouts.

But the inspector general’s report noted that other mortgage companies also have fared poorly under the program. The report noted that it is unclear how Treasury determined which companies received poor enough ratings to merit withholding of payments and which ones did not.

In a letter sent in response to the report, Tim Massad, assistant Treasury secretary for financial stability, said the administration has “incorporated most of (the inspector general’s) specific recommendations for these programs.”

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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 06:57 AM
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6. Thank you for these links, Stockholmer!
Sorry I somehow missed noting them yesterday. In a just world, we'd get an Elliot Spitzer type in there to replace him.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 06:58 AM
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7. Fuck Moody's,
They pull this shit of trying to influence policy by extortion, have the SEC yank their government sanctioned NRSRO standing and launch a Justice Department investigation.
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