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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 08:59 PM
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Fuck Nader.
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Morizovich Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:01 PM
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1. Uh, I'd rather not.
If you don't mind.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:46 PM
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47. Indeed. Although perhaps with a ten foot pole.
A splintery one soaked in rubbing alcohol, salt, and jalapeno oil.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:56 AM
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79. What are you people on about?
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:02 PM
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2. Fuck Nader is right. What an asshole he is. nt
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:02 PM
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3. The Supreme Court elected bu$h.
Kick and unrec for your usual shit statements.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:46 PM
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40. And the f-ing DLC enabled them.
Unrec'd
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:47 PM
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48. Without Nader, there would have been no recount and no court case. nt
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roxiejules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:17 AM
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61. And Bush won in 2004 because??
Had Nader not run, the outcome would have been the same. The powers that be were not going to let Gore win, no matter what, and gamed it innumerabl­e ways.

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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 03:42 PM
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82. So then he gets a pass for helping create the Bush presidency in the first place?
Gore needed 500 votes in Florida to prevent Bush from walking away with it. Nader took more than 90,000. It's really simple math.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:56 PM
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53. All they had to do was let him in the debates. But they were chickenshit. nt
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:02 PM
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4. Why doesn't he get it that he is not electable or supported?
Three times the charm? I think he should donate that money to charity.
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banned from Kos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:02 PM
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5. And his belated henchman - George W. Bush
Will never forget.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:17 PM
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26. But now!
NOw what?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:02 PM
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6. Love your new avatar nt
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:05 PM
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7. Damn him for being sick of the two party system!!!
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:09 PM
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16. It's not as though it limits the breadth & depth of political discourse. Everyone's interests
are up for presidential debate and all presidential candidates are welcome to the debates.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:05 PM
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8. You first.
Unrec.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:06 PM
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9. Another spam thread
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:12 PM
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:06 PM
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10. My God!!! The first LoZoccolo OP I have to Rec! This must be a sign of the times.
K&R
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judgegblue Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:12 PM
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19. Help please
I am new to this board and excuse my ignorance, but what does K & R and rec or unrec mean? And by the way Nader is an arrogant ass who would destroy this country to see his name in the press.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:19 PM
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27. (K)ick by responding with a post to the Original Post & (R)ecommend.
A kick is really better because it will always kick the thread to the top of the forum in which it is posted so it will be more easily seen.
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judgegblue Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:21 PM
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28. Thanks
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:38 PM
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34. I'll gladly kick with Nader's accomplishments (Thanks for the invitation!)
* Clean Air Act
* Clean Water Act
* Consumer credit disclosure law
* Consumer Product Safety Act
* Co-Op Bank Bill
* Federal Coal Mine Health and Safety Act
* Foreign Corrupt Practices Act
* Freedom of Information Act
* Funeral home cost disclosure law
* Law establishing Environmental Protection Agency
* Medical Devices safety
* Mine Health and Safety Act
* Mobile home safety
* National Automobile and Highway Traffic Safety Act
* National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act
* Natural Gas Pipeline Safety Act
* Nuclear power safety
* Occupational Safety and Health Act (OSHA)
* Pension protection law
* Safe Water Drinking Act
* Tire safety & grading disclosure law
* Whistleblower Protection Act
* Wholesome Meat Act
* Wholesome Poultry Product Act
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:23 PM
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29. Yes, Nader as with others love to get attention.
Oh, and concerning rec, unrec, that is about how you can recommend or unrecommend a thread here at DU within the first 24 hours after it is posted.

You will find many DUers who are totally obsessed with Rec/UnRec, especially if it is their thread or one with which they agree that receive UnRecs, then it must be a troll. You will see people complaining about an UnRec withing minutes after a thread is posted.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:42 PM
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37. Clearly, everyone should keep their head down except our elected leaders and those who
serve them.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:07 PM
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11. Yay! You're back! (I was worried that you had abandoned your obsession with Nader!)
If there weren't such an age difference, and if I weren't married... yes, I would fuck Nader.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:07 PM
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12. Hear hear!!! Nt
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:08 PM
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13. I agree and triple your sentiment. nt
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:09 PM
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14. LoZoccolo, are you feeling unhappy today?....n/t
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:09 PM
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15. You're 11 years late.
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 09:11 PM by Vanje
Get over it.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:15 PM
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24. I only regret that I have but one unrec to give to this thread.
But your terse and eloquent reply is SO worth a kick!

:bounce:
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:16 PM
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25. I did as much as I could
Only one unrec.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 03:39 AM
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72. +1
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:10 PM
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17. The Great Enabler or the Greatest Enabler?
:smoke:
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:12 PM
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18. Fuck all Republican enablers.
Nader is at the top of the list.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:15 PM
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22. Oh. Thats timely!
nt
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:14 PM
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21. Un-recced. Nader has been irrelevant since 2000. nt
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:15 PM
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23. Yes
Duh
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:25 PM
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30. But he certainly is a legend in his own mind, and loves the attention. n/t
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:30 PM
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31. The Op or Nader?
:)
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:36 PM
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33. The man is a legend...
You can thank Nader and the organizations the he started with the following (the fact that some of the regulations initially instituted have been eroded is OUR fault.)

* Clean Air Act
* Clean Water Act
* Consumer credit disclosure law
* Consumer Product Safety Act
* Co-Op Bank Bill
* Federal Coal Mine Health and Safety Act
* Foreign Corrupt Practices Act
* Freedom of Information Act
* Funeral home cost disclosure law
* Law establishing Environmental Protection Agency
* Medical Devices safety
* Mine Health and Safety Act
* Mobile home safety
* National Automobile and Highway Traffic Safety Act
* National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act
* Natural Gas Pipeline Safety Act
* Nuclear power safety
* Occupational Safety and Health Act (OSHA)
* Pension protection law
* Safe Water Drinking Act
* Tire safety & grading disclosure law
* Whistleblower Protection Act
* Wholesome Meat Act
* Wholesome Poultry Product Act
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:41 PM
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36. Nice list. Thank you
I like Nader, I wouldn't vote for him but I wish I could.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:45 PM
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39. You are welcome. It's almost as if he is being written out of history but I have faith
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 10:06 PM by Luminous Animal
that there is a young historian that will carry on Howard Zinn's tradition and continue on "The People's History".
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:44 PM
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46. Actually, every election he garners many more votes.
By the time he runs in 2012 he will likely be a formidable candidate.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:52 PM
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49. Did you forget the "sarcasm" emoticon??
:shrug:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:31 PM
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32. But enough about your plans for the weekend....
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:39 PM
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35. Hehe!
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:48 PM
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51. Hehe! nt
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:50 PM
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52. LOL
Classic
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 02:20 AM
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71. Hoh! No Respect!
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 08:37 AM
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81. Snort.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:44 PM
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38. Is a shit statement.
Heh.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:47 PM
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:47 PM
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50. Ha! Good one. nt
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:17 PM
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42. this will be as productive as it is timely n/t
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:18 PM
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43. auto-rec...nt
Sid
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:37 PM
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44. Brilliant!
Play some Skinard...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:39 PM
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:02 AM
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54. Michelle or Barack?
User profile:

Member since 2001
Number of posts 2652
Avatar Image
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:03 AM
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56. Either one. They're both cute.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:02 AM
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55. I'd fuck him.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:04 AM
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57. I Agree - He Fucking Sucks
and those who voted for him - they suck too!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:05 AM
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58. Why do you hate Jerrold Nadler?
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:11 AM
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59. Your Friday night Fuck Nader, is becoming as regular as a steaming Metamucil. nt
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:16 AM
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60. LoZoccolo gets no recs but he sure gets replies!
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:19 AM
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62. your post is too wordy
Edited on Sat Jul-30-11 12:21 AM by CreekDog
i mean two wordy.

:beer:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:20 AM
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63. i can't stand Nader anymore
but that said...your post is incredibly vacuous, even by your standards.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:20 AM
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64. k/r
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:27 AM
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65. Viva Chavez!!!
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:31 AM
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66. Why?
What a stupid post.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:56 AM
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67. Isn't this your second one of these threads in the last two weeks?
Two words posted. Run away.

Typical of you.

:eyes:
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:25 AM
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68. Actually, Lozoccalo has been fucking other people recently (not there is anything wrong with that).
Edited on Sat Jul-30-11 01:27 AM by Luminous Animal
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:32 AM
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69. I never could understand how a Lounge---ish post(er)
could end up being so prevalent in GD over the years. I guess anything will past muster in GD, even two stupid words that are a good waste of thread space. :shrugs:

Maybe we should all just post meaningless shit that just 'comes to mind'.

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I Hate Mondays.

The Sun Is Hot.

My Dog Ate My Homework.

Peace Out, Dog.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 02:12 AM
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70. I'm going to post a stupid one.
Watch. :)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:17 AM
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dameocrat67 Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:19 AM
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73. To those who think things would have been different if nader hadnt
Edited on Sat Jul-30-11 04:22 AM by dameocrat67
spoiled Gore, I would like you to remember Gores vp pic Joe Lieberman. His adivsors included Martin Peretz. Also if the centrists produce different outcomes how come the wars budget cuts have on continued since winning congress in 2006 and the presidency in 2008. There was a full 2 years where centrist dems had complete control of our elected government and what did they do with it, why they continued Bush policies. If Bush was so bad why have centrists like this poster supported all of Bushs policies. Was he bad just because he was bad or for logical reasons like bad policies.

So yeah nader may have tipped the election, though there were other factors too, but he probably did not change history very much.

Centrism in the Gore campaign was what made Nader attractive.

The centrist are really the ones ruining everything, not Nader. Look at the fact that neoliberal dems are always the ones going after Nader. They are just trying deflect from their own responsibility in literally ruining the democratic party with their pathetic attacks on nader.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:54 AM
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74. That Sound You Heard. . .
. . .was the real point flying over your head at supersonic speed. You think centrism was the problem during the Silverspoon administration? You can't be that blind.
GAC
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:59 AM
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:03 AM
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76. Flame bait and "0"
net recs. De ja vu.
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:44 AM
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78. Did Nader cause Gore to lose his home state?
Did Nader cause Gore to distance himself from Clinton?
Did Nader cause to pick Traitor Joe LIEberman as his running mate?
Did Nader select the Supreme Court Justices who picked George Bush as President?
Did Nader purge the vote rolls of anybody who had the same name or one that is similar to one that had a criminal record?
If he did all of that then I would agree with you.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 07:00 AM
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80. Why? He is pretty much the only person in politics who is actually looking out for you
It is sad that people bitch about the closest we have ever come to having a progressive President.
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