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Mon Jan-10-11 09:36 AM
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Voices on the Left Called Bush and Cheney War Criminals Who Should Be Brought To Justice |
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And that literally is what those voices advocated. Legal trials based on the rule of law. Violence wasn't offered as a solution. Organizing to vote Democratic in 2004 and 2008 was the primary tactic advocated. Gathering petitions asking Congress to initiate impeachment hearings was pursued, another completely legal and non violent rememdy. There was no talk of using bullets if ballots didn't work. There was no talk of the Tree of Liberty needing to be watered with blood.
The distinction is so easy to make that it can only willfully be missed.
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Mon Jan-10-11 09:40 AM
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Mon Jan-10-11 09:44 AM
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2. It is missed willfully and purposefully conflated by Reich Wingers who wish to keep on |
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to keep on keeping on and the "sensible centrists" who facilitate them.
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Mon Jan-10-11 09:45 AM
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3. You are so right as ususal |
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There is a huge difference to saying that Bush and Cheney should be tried in the Hague and some of things said by the right. In addition, where things crossed the line is that you can find almost nothing said by any Democratic office holder. No "second amendment remedy" which was spoken of by a Republican Senate candidate.
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Mon Jan-10-11 11:21 AM
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11. It really is that simple and profound a difference |
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It is very unnerving to see so few in public life willing to state it.
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Mon Jan-10-11 09:47 AM
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Mon Jan-10-11 10:19 AM
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Next time you go hiking in a National Forest be sure to keep a lookout for those left wing militia's practicing war games for the upcoming revolution against the Federal Government.
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Mon Jan-10-11 10:36 AM
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7. and we daringly used countdown clocks |
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not for when he would die...but for when the election would boot him out.. we are not like republicans...
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Mon Jan-10-11 10:40 AM
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8. K&R. Excellent comparison. n/t |
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Mon Jan-10-11 10:50 AM
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There is a huge difference between requesting that the justice system work for all, even the powerful, and calling for violence. The later is terrorism.
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Mon Jan-10-11 12:11 PM
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Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 12:12 PM by Tom Rinaldo
Even those who believe that it is absurd to claim that Bush and Cheney are War Crimainals can only at root say that those who believe it are pursuing a bogus legal arguement. There was never any threat of violence being made against either of them, let alone an ideological case made supporting violence as a legitimate option to use, something that official Republican candidates for national office have advanced.
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Mon Jan-10-11 10:51 AM
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Mon Jan-10-11 11:47 AM
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12. K&R. Thanks for that insight. n/t |
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Mon Jan-10-11 01:38 PM
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14. Moreover, the vox populi is not the same as "national political figures." |
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Mon Jan-10-11 02:05 PM
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17. That point always slides right past them. |
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Meanwhile while we make up derogatory names for Sarah Palin a former Speaker of the House and acknowledged important national voice in the Republican Party calls the President of the United States a greater threat to America than Al Quada.
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Mon Jan-10-11 01:43 PM
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15. Yep, we advocated legal remedies, not second amendment remedies. |
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We hoped for perp walks and prosecutions, not assassinations, or armed rebellions.
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Mon Jan-10-11 01:45 PM
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16. Yet the ones who are in training to overthrow the Federal Government |
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...like to describe themselves as "patriots" and liberals as treasonous haters of America.
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Mon Jan-10-11 02:12 PM
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18. I was just thinking about this... |
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and about the claim that "both sides do it" Both sides DO do it, but not equally. The far left Liberals call Cons. disparaging names (see how easy that was=))and seek legitimate indictments for legitimate crimes committed, and the response of the furthest of the Right-wingers is to tacitly accept the murder of their political opposition in the street. The reason these 2 things are called 'equal' is because if you happen to be a person for whom degrees and distinctions now belong squarely within the realm of the coastal, evil, liberal, educated, God-hating, big-government elites whose dirty science and critical thinking skills you have LONG ago rejected as the 'loyal opposition', what other position CAN you take. Deep in my soul I really DO have some sympathy for them, as sooooo many of them have been "educated" into NOT being able to think their way out of the trap they have set for themselves, and its a waste of an otherwise useful and productive Human Mind. Angry as this behavior makes me, the phrase "They know not what they do." is the response I keep coming back to. As always, arguments to my position are most welcome, Peace
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Mon Jan-10-11 02:13 PM
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19. They ARE war criminals who should be brought to justice. |
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That isn't advocating violence, that's repudiating it.
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Mon Jan-10-11 09:50 PM
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20. Absolutely Tom. I made this point to a family |
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member recently. We advocated for JUSTICE, utilizing a system of justice.
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Tue Jan-11-11 02:26 AM
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21. Don't tell me there wasn't violent rhetoric associated with that ... |
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Edited on Tue Jan-11-11 02:27 AM by eppur_se_muova
Remember "Fuck Saddam, we're taking him out!"?
Oh ...
Oh, wait. Never mind.
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Tue Jan-11-11 02:34 AM
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22. So true, it makes you wonder why. |
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Tue Jan-11-11 08:53 AM
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23. Huge K&R from this quarter. nt |
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