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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:01 PM
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Friday’s vote made Boehner’s job harder, not easier By Ezra Klein
The events of the past 24 hours have been beyond bizarre. We have, in effect, been conducting a legislative thought experiment around the question, “What is the least conservative debt-ceiling bill that can pass without Democratic votes in the House?” A few minutes ago, we learned the answer. But the answer doesn’t matter.There is exactly one question worth asking now: What is the debt-ceiling compromise that can win the support of the House, Senate and the White House? That means winning the support of Democrats as well as Republicans. That’s what every effort in every chamber should be oriented toward. Instead, Boehner has spent the past two days wasting his political capital assembling an irrelevant coalition of conservatives.

When Nancy Pelosi served as Speaker of the House, her job was conditioning her members for disappointment. It was Pelosi who had to bring them around to a Senate-designed health-care law that lacked a public option, a cap-and-trade bill that gave away most of its permits, a stimulus that did too little, a bank bailout that endangered their careers. Pelosi had to do that because, well, that’s what the speaker of the House has to do. To govern is to compromise. And when you’re in charge, you have to govern.

Lately, Boehner has not been governing. After he failed to pass a conservative resolution to the debt crisis without Democratic votes, he should have begun cutting the deals and making the concessions necessary to gain Democratic votes. That, after all, is what he will ultimately have to do. It’s what all this is supposed to be leading up to.But Boehner went in the opposite direction. He made his bill more conservative. He indulged his members in the fantasy that they wouldn’t have to make compromises. It’s as if Pelosi, facing criticism for dropping the public option, had tried to shore up her support by bringing a single-payer health-care bill to the floor. Even if that would have pleased her left wing, what good would it have done her? Her job was to prepare her members to take a vote that could lead to a successful outcome.On Thursday, that seemed to be how Boehner understood his job, too. He would propose and pass a bill that was somewhat to the right of where the final compromise will be, but moved his members closer to where they would eventually need to be. But then he lost the vote and, I worry, lost sight of his own legislative strategy.

His new priority was to show that he could, in fact, pass something. And he succeeded. But the cost was pulling his members further from the reality of what they’ll eventually have to accept. At this point, I don’t know what Boehner’s endgame is. What scares me is that I’m not sure he does, either.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/tonights-vote-made-boehners-job-harder-not-easier/2011/07/11/gIQAEVd3hI_blog.html
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:06 PM
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1. I don't see how the Senate Compromise Bill is going to pass the House.
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 10:08 PM by leveymg
Even if it gets a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. Can anyone explain that?

Isn't it a little early to be rejoicing?
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LonePirate Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:08 PM
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2. 25 or so Wall Street Rs side with the Ds to pass the Reid bill once it reaches the House
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:15 PM
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4. Make that 50, and maybe. Look at the numbers:

Congress by the numbers, 112th Congress, 1st Session.
http://www.thecapitol.net/FAQ/cong_numbers.html
Current Party Numbers: 112th Congress, 1st Session. House, Senate. Democrats, 193, 51. Independents, 0, 2. Republicans, 240, 47. Vacancies, 2 ...

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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:20 PM
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9. Not 50 - you just deduct 25 from the R's and add them to the D's
193 + 25 = 218
240 - 25 = 215

So if all the Democrats plus 25 Republicans vote for it, it passes 218 to 215.

Even 24 Republicans would make it 217 to 216, so that's the magic number, assuming all the D's hold firm.

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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:56 PM
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8. Are the House Dems on board w/ the Reid Bill? Progressive Caucus? CBC? n/t
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:09 PM
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3. me either, Boenher does not know what he's doing
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:27 PM
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5. I do miss and appreciate Pelosi as Speaker, she's definitely not a thug
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:30 PM
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6. Well, if she's is she's subtle about it ; )
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:31 PM
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7. senate passes a bill, house blocks it = republicans own the shut down if it happens nt
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