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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:06 PM
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Who's idea was it to agree to 60 vote majorities in the Senate?
There is no hard and fast rule on this, right?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:08 PM
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1. US Senate Rule 22
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:16 PM
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2. 60 votes to break a filibuster. Simple majority to pass a bill. See Senate rules above.
Worked pretty good until Republicans decided to abuse the fillibuster
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:24 PM
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3. Don't they get a chance to amend the rules every year?
Why didn't they amend the filibuster?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:31 PM
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4. Because if Republicans take over the Senate in 2012 election, Dems will want the option to filibust
filibuster and will want the 60 vote cloture threshold.

There was some talk early on about reform and making it harder to filibuster. But nobody could agree what that meant exactly.
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CleanGreenFuture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:33 PM
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5. And for the first time in history a 60-vote majority is required to raise the debt ceiling.
As Sen. Leahy has said.

Gee, I wonder why that is.

I suspect we will default and Wall Street will reap the rewards of all that extra money coming in from higher interest rates on everything we pay for, our homes, our cars, our credit cards....EVERYTHING.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 02:11 PM
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7. People will STOP buying
You don't think they won't? They aren't buying now in this economy. They will rent, keep their clunckers, etc. In the end that is going to HURT business.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:34 PM
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6. The people who...
...don't make the Republicans actually filibuster (I.e., keep talking nonstop),and who don't actively seek ways of breaking up the Republican's lockstep voting.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 07:20 PM
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8. The modern filibuster is not like Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.
They can phone in a filibuster. Then they can vote against cloture, that's it. Done bill is dead.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 01:36 PM
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9. All the more reason to make an issue of their Politburo-crade voting conformity n/t
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 01:42 PM
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10. Let me take a guess
The pubs get into power and change the 60 vote rule.
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