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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 03:27 PM
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My rant on this manufactured crisis
Edited on Sat Jul-30-11 03:32 PM by Botany
The poor, the sick, and the elderly did not cause the deficit.

It was made by having off budget wars and giving tax breaks to the wealthy and now to protect the wealthy
democrats and republicans are willing to take their pound of flesh from the poor, the sick, and the elderly.

This is all about:

1) "They" have been after social security for years.

b) A black man who is a democrat is president and it really pisses them off. So now they are trying to blame
Obama for the deficit he didn't create because they see it as a way to hurt him.

Their screaming about how we really need to take care of the deficit right now is just a smoke screen and has no more to do
w/ reality than those mother fuckers who impeached Clinton about a blow job in a search "truth and honor."




Many of the same players who signed off on the tax cut for the rich which took a surplus into a deficit have now
"found Jesus," about economic frugality.


Barack Obama needs either a clean debt ceiling raise or he needs the to do the 14th amendment dance. America
should not reward the really anti American behavior that is behind crisis. Good God in butter what are they
gonna say when an elderly person commits suicide after their social security check doesn't show up? Heartless
mother fuckers! :grr:


P.S. Fuck the media too.



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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 03:36 PM
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1. K&R!
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Morizovich Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:34 PM
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2. Recs without Kicks
Libraries without Books! :-)
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:43 PM
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3. How can you say Obama did not create the deficit?
The deficit was only $500 billion under Bush and now it is $1.6 trillion under Obama.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:58 PM
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4. e.z.
The deficit "grew" under Obama because:

1) He put the wars on the books ...... before they were off budget

ii) His stimulus ..... which stopped another great depression ...... added to the debt but he had to do that because capital was frozen




the low point was when the stimulus kicked in ...... the talking point that the stimulus failed is just a lie.

c) The treasury is still getting shorted on $ because of the bush tax cuts for the rich.

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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:42 AM
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6. not the answer I was looking for
anybody else? Class?
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 03:14 PM
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7. this is what I was looking for
Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 03:15 PM by hfojvt
something most of us probably have forgotten, or would not think of. One reason I still read Somerby every day - because I learn things, which is not always true on DU.

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh072711.shtml

"But Pawlenty made a remarkably basic claim—and Crowley failed to challenge it:

PAWLENTY (7/24/11): 'Well, first, let's—I do want to say, let's remember how we got here. President Obama took office with a $500 billion or so deficit, and he ran it up the deficit to $1.5 trillion—excuse me, $1.5 trillion.'

Say what? It’s true that the deficit for fiscal year 2008 was roughly $450 trillion. But, as Crowley surely knows, that fiscal year ended in the fall of 2008, with Candidate Barack Obama still on the campaign trail. On January 7, 2009, the CBO issued its deficit forecast for fiscal year 2009—a year which had now been under way for three months.

Obama was still two weeks from taking office. But on the front page of the Washington Post, Lori Montgomery explained where the projected deficit stood:

MONTGOMERY (1/8/09): The nation's budget deficit will soar to an unprecedented $1.2 trillion this year, congressional budget analysts said yesterday, a startling tide of red ink that could dampen enthusiasm on Capitol Hill for some of President-elect Barack Obama’s most ambitious priorities."


The deficit was projected to be $1.2 trillion BEFORE Obama took office and BEFORE the stimulus was passed.

So the deficit, like the recession, came from Bush.

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 04:20 PM
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8. w/ out a doubt
the growth in the deficit (in real #s) after Obama took office were all because of the actions of the bush administration
from putting the 2 wars on the books, to having to spend $ in order to stimulate a collapsed economy, or the driver
of the national debt that we still feel from W's stupid tax cuts to the rich ...... to me it is so surreal to see Karl Rove, McConnell,
Boehner, John Kyle, and so on rail about the national deficit and how it has so grown on Obama ...... they are lying and
know it too but to them politics and power are far more important than America's middle class and working class who
are being asked to take a hit for a problem they didn't create.


This whole "debt crisis ceiling" debate was Kabuki theater pushed through by the rich and powerful to help the Republicans,
bloody Obama, and to kiss up to the very rich.


Why would anybody vote republican again? This whole debt ceiling crapfest was shameful. Gotta get at the poor, the sick, and
old to solve the deficit problem.


p.s. thanx for the #s!

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 04:34 PM
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9. no one EVER mentions the wars....and putting them on the books.... tons of debt
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 04:52 PM
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10. If you own the media you own the message.
Iraq = $600,000 per minute in borrowed money from China

But now Karl Rove and the media are trying to pin the debt on Obama :banghead:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 06:20 PM
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5. Please warn us when you're going to be posting a picture of THAT fucktard
I don't want my eyes to bleed.
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