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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 11:31 PM
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Even if we avoid default and the dollar rebounds- what of the value of the Democratic Party?
Edited on Sat Jul-30-11 11:44 PM by Poll_Blind
Heading into an election year, the Democratic President cuts a deal with the Repukes behind Congressional leadership's back to put Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid cuts/changes on the table.

Best-case scenario, we strike a deal with the Republicans and avoid default. Bolstered by a Euro on life support, the dollar rebounds and more sharply than expected. Is the value of the stock of the Democratic Party going to be better off or worse off now that the mask is off and all of America knows that one of the prime planks for protection, the "Big 3" of Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid are "on the table"?

On the senate floor today, I Republican was jeering the senator from Minnesota (I believe that's where they were from) about tossing Social Security to the wolves. Get used to that. Even if we avoid having to make those changes/cuts to the "Big 3"...somehow...even if we can avoid that, we've already tipped our hand, the President has already gone on TV and presented the unthinkable for a Democratic President in a matter-of-fact tone.

How's that investment going to be paying off?

And how about big-time, big-money Democratic Party donors like Soros? You think they like this shit any more than me, or my House Rep. (who signed a petition along with 69 other House Democrats, demanding the President keep his hands off the "Big 3") or my Senator (who just tweeted today about being stonewalled by the Obama DOJ on illegal domestic surveillance of US citizens using cell phones/GPS) do? Oh wait, the phone's ringing.

"Hello? Oh, you don't say. Oh!"

George Soros: Obama "Has Lost Control" Of America's Economic Agenda

PB
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 11:33 PM
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1. Well they are going to have to explain why this needs to be done.
Anyone who can read a chart will know something has to give.

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LonePirate Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 11:36 PM
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2. The best thing for the Democratic Party would be for Obama to confess he is actually a Republican.
Then we could run a true Democrat that represents Democratic values. I have had it with our Capitulator in Chief.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 11:40 PM
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4. Yep - he should confess he's a Repub and give the LBJ speech -"I shall not seek, and I will not
accept..."
I've totally had it with him as well.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 12:24 AM
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7. 2012 election season is going to be weirder than a Dutch nightmare.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 11:36 PM
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3. If that's how it plays out, then I would think that
we lost our asses on that investment.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 11:46 PM
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6. I'm worried we already did! To see that puke on the Senate floor already...
..hanging the millstone of not protecting Social Security around the neck of one of ours was a bad scene. The guy, high forehead, curly blonde/brown hair was speechless for a sec until he gathered his wits enough to fall back on the administration-provided bromide of "strengthening" Social Security. It was a fucked thing to see.

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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 12:32 AM
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8. In the House as well. It sickened me to see Drier and other House Republicans screaming that
Democrats were the ones whose bill cut $500 billion dollars from Medicare.

I can just see the ads now. And Van Hollen nor any of the other Dems had any viable response to that assertion other than (as you pointed out) the administration's talking point of "strengthening" Medicare.

It's like the trojan horse. They've sabotaged us from within.

I'm literally sick to my stomach over what the Democratic Party has become. We've literally walked away from our core values espoused by FDR, JFK, LBJ and others.

We've literally dismantled hallmarks of those administrations... the New Deal and the space program are just a few examples.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 01:14 AM
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9. 2012 is going to be a year filled with pictures of Repukes holding hands with old people.
They're already out of the gates on this one...

:puke:

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 11:44 PM
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5. It's what we make it. Stronger or weaker? You
decide.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 01:17 AM
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10. Ok...stay with me...A giant asteroid is heading towards earth. Democrats promise
to get very tough with it. We can say the republicans are sending a guide ray to help it.

Other than that I got nothing.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 04:31 AM
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11. He lost me at "The Tea Parties are decent and hard working." Did he miss when they mocked
people in wheelchairs during the health care debates? Did he miss the racist posters? In my part of the world, "decent" folks aren't spiteful or mean like that. Soros must be hanging around a bad crowd.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 07:02 AM
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12. Recommend
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