Libya: Son of Slain Rebel General Calls for Return of Stability and Normalcy under Gaddafi

[Distant Observer]

Do a quick google search and you will find that this story of chaos and dissillusion with the civil war has been quickly scrubbed from most of the mainstream online sites -- WP NYTimes, etc -- and can be only temporarily found in Google cache.

For instance, try finding the phrase "slaying of Abdel-Fattah Younis raised fear and uncertainty" in a mainstrean publication.

Some may find this interesting.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/30/libya-general-younis-islamists-blamed

Younis's death has raised fear and uncertainty in Benghazi, the rebel stronghold. Thousands marched behind his coffin, wrapped in the rebels' tricolour flag, to the graveyard for his burial, chanting that he was a martyr "beloved by God". Troops fired a military salute as the coffin arrived, and angry and grieving supporters fired wildly into the air with automatic weapons.

At the graveside, Younis's son, Ashraf, broke down in tears as they lowered the body into the ground. And in a startling and risky display in a city so allied to the rebel cause, pleaded hysterically for Gaddafi's return to bring stability back to Libya. "We want Muammar to come back! We want the green flag back!" he shouted at the crowd, referring to Gaddafi's national banner.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/29/abdel-fatah-younis-assass_0_n_913634.html

At the graveside, Younis' son, Ashraf, broke down, crying and screaming as they lowered the body into the ground and – in a startling and risky display in a city that was the first to shed Gadhafi's rule nearly six months ago – pleaded hysterically for the return of the Libyan leader to bring stability.

"We want Moammar to come back! We want the green flag back!" he shouted at the crowd, referring to Gadhafi's national banner.

[Distant Observer]

1. Check out NATO action in response to Chaos among Rebels: Bomb Libyan TV

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2086018,00.html

[malaise]

3. Wow there are folks here unreccing

Ah well - that won't change the facts.

[PurityOfEssence]

6. That's what they do: they are morally correct and must destroy any discord

Sadly, as the thread-starter points out, this kind of thing DOES alter history. It's Orwellian control of the message, both on this board and in the corporate media.

Inconvenient stories are scrubbed clean.

I exhort anyone who really cares about the current situation to do as much digging as possible for the accidental stories that may shed light onto all of this.

The Al-Nidaa Brigade was overrun last night, with the claim being that they were a fifth-column of Qaddafi supporters. Maybe so. Who knows? Who overran them?

At first, it seemed that the killers of Younes were Islamists, but now there's no mention of it. All intimations of rifts within the rebels seem to be getting downplayed.

As for unreccing factual news items that run askew with ego-based personal beliefs, it's a despicable thing done by those who hold their personal image and need to be "correct" above any decent pluralist respect for honesty and truth. The sad fact is that this is a very complex situation with many corporatist and imperialist forces at play, along with at least some sincere rebels; this is not enough for the true believers.

Nauseating.

[malaise]

8. Nice post

:hi:

[malaise]

2. Well the first response from NATO was to bomb the

Satellites to prevent coverage from the state run stations. That failed.
NATO is looking hapless and hopeless. What a clusterfuck.

gr.

[Wilms]

4. ^

[gratuitous]

5. Yeah, this is definitely a murderous dispute we want to get in the middle of

Since we decided that we don't like Gadhafi again this week, we'll throw in with an amorphous, poorly-defined and little understood group of "rebels" on the theory that whoever opposes Gadhafi (the murderous thug) must be preferable as a replacement and enjoys widespread support among the population.

I'm sure one of the cheerleaders for this incipient quagmire will be along shortly to explain it all to us naive dirty fucking hippies who can't appreciate what an unholy tyrant Gadhafi is, and how this is our best chance of ending his rule.

[Distant Observer]

7. It is hard to imagine a situation more morally confused than the situation we have put ourselves in

We are supporting at a distance people we don't know by killing at a distance people we can't see.

[PurityOfEssence]

10. Kill Kill Kill

Oil...mmm, that sweet tasty lightest of crude...yum.

How dare locals resist our will?

How dare people suggest that other forces are at play?

Here's the most obnoxious inference from the interventionists: that our American "revolution" is somehow analogous to this ginned-up pack of lies. The justification for intervention has often been that we wouldn't have survived if it hadn't been for the support of the French. There's strong evidence of that, but the French didn't help the Americans until after about two and a half years of fighting capped off with a resounding strategic and tactical victory by Gates and Arnold at Saratoga,and they only did it then to ruin the British, not necessarily to "help" us.

There's no comparison. We got foreign help AFTER proving our viability, WELL after proving our viability. The Libyan rebels did no such thing; they got help immediately; in fact, they showed their lack of ability. Mysteriously, the protest came to become armed insurrection within a matter of days.

Here we were called in to save an insurrection barely a month old that hadn't been able to do anything but secure a few towns. Beyond all that, the commercial interests driving this are shockingly transparent. This is so deeply shameful that it makes a rational person cringe.

[malaise]

9. Do we ever learn? n/t

[MemeSmith]

11. Normalcy isn't a word.

You need to get back to realcy, before there is a fatalcy. The criticalcy of this issue is high.