"Both sides need to tone it down!" Who're you trying to kid?

[bigbrother05]

While there is plenty of justified anguish and anger at the language that suggests the targeting of Rep. Giffords and others, let's not lose sight of the ongoing war the RW has waged to threaten and demonize the Judicial system.

One the leading purveyors, in case you've forgotten, has been Tom Delay. It escalated in 2005 following the Schiavo rulings and even led CJ Rehnquist to ask for added security.

- "Unfortunately, at the present time federal judges across the country are feeling particularly vulnerable, not only for themselves, but also for their families," said a letter from the Judicial Conference of the United States, the court's policymaking board, led by Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist.

- Republicans have been criticized for statements about the federal courts after the Schiavo rulings. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.), raising the prospect of impeachment, said after the Florida woman's death: "The time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for their behavior."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32375-2005Apr6.html

Here's a link to the DKosopedia tracking outright RW threats to federal judges since 2004 as well as the actual incidents/deaths involving judges and their families:
http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Threatening_judges

While the Left may rail against conservative activism in the courts, it is clearly the right and it's leaders that have ratcheted up the language beyond acceptable political action.

It's more than coincidental that an average citizen can locate and cite multiple instances of RW leaders provocative language in the last 4-5 years, but our vaunted MSM has to resort to rolling out quotes from 60s radicals who've long since recanted to find anything resembling a LW equivalent.

[liberal N proud]

1. Why is it that when ever the right is caught at something the always come back

with both sides do it.

That is so 3rd grade for shit sake.

Yet they can never give examples where a Democratic Candidate or pundit has called for violence against their opponents.

[Poboy]

12. The standard 'both sides do it' and always finding one isolated incident to

compare to the systemic, standard practice of the other by the media is cowardly and intentionally deceptive.
They are scared to death of being called names by the people who are actually ARE a threat.

[tom_paine]

20. Because at bottm, the human mind operates at a 3rd grade level, if that. All of us.

Ed Bernays and the Propaganda (PR, advertising, tec.) industry long ago figured it out and there have been millions of hours of research at universities, corporations, and elsewhere.

At it works, it works it works it WORKS, as the RW could attest these past 30 years.

You say it's "3rd grade". I or a marketing executive might say it "harnesses certain universal or near-universal human psychological characteristics within the base of the subconscious".

But they'd both mean the same thing.

As I, like all of us, sit and watch technology's nightmare cast the final few remaining bars in our virtual prison that encompasses all of society down to our very souls, which cannot bar infoganda from flanking our minds and getting in our subconscious, as it was designed, we see the ultimate triumph of "3rd grade" or perhaps we could say the "reptile brain".

[hedgehog]

2. How much of the swing to the Right that we have seen since the 60's

was in repudiation of 60's radicals? Maybe the pendulum will swing the other way, now.

[DBoon]

3. We agree not to argue with them, they agree not to shoot us

that's what "both sides need to tone it down" amounts to

[derby378]

4. +100

They'd rather we be more like sheep waiting to be fleeced.

[bigbrother05]

7. That's their intent, all bullies are the same nt

[Poboy]

13. Yes sir.

[DBoon]

5. Note that the '60s radicals did NOT represent the Democratic Party of the time

While the right wing rhetoric of today is from the very mainstream of the Republican Party.

Malcom X may have used violent rhetoric, but he wasn't a mainstream candidate for the US Senate

[bigbrother05]

6. And generally their action was directed at the oppression

Yippees rioting in Chicago didn't attack schools or clinics, they fought the police on the streets.

[Benedictine_09876]

8. Revised Code on Inciting to Violence- Examples

Here are just a FEW examples from the past 5 years or so, most from 2010.
If I posted them all - this blog would be never-ending.

Jesse Kelly, Held June Event to “Shoot a Fully Automatic M16″ to “Get on Target” and “Remove Gabrielle Giffords”

Palin reloads, aims for Giffords: SEPT 29, 2010

Sarah Palin's PAC Puts Gun Sights On Democrats She's Targeting In 2010

Palin Puts Gun Sights On “Target” Map; Urges We “Reload” MARCH 24, 2010, 6:39 PMET

Sharon Angle wants 'Second Amendment Remedies used to "take Harry Reid out". 2010

And here is an article that proves they know what they are doing is dangerous. Malice aforethought carries legal weight.

McCain Campaign (Palin) Amplifies Violent Rhetoric, GOP Crowds Threaten Obama's Life - OCT 7 2010
"An even more basic question, perhaps: Is Gov. Palin trying to incite violence against Sen. Obama as part of an ill-conceived campaign strategy to change the topic from the economy at any cost?"

"It's a dangerous road, but we have no choice," a top McCain strategist recently admitted to the Daily News. "If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we're going to lose."
If you knew it was 'dangerous' - that means all you fuckers need to be in prison. Where are the indictments?

GLEN BECK:
“Every night I get down on my knees and pray that Dennis Kucinich will burst into flames.”(2003)

"I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it." (2005)"

"When I see a 9/11 victim family on television, or whatever, I'm just like, 'Oh shut up' I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining." (2005)

Well guess what you fucking scumbag hemorrhoid? The little girl YOU and your friends instigated some nutjob to kill was born on 9/11/01. Happy now?

Beck has also continually compared Progressives to Hitler/Stalin, etc., such as in this ignorant, over-the-top rant just DESIGNED to compel some Right Wing loon to pull out his gun:

"I beg you, America. Great and powerful evil is on our doorstep. Great and powerful evil is here. I beg you, read about the progressives. I beg you."
"It is starting all over again. What we said we would never forget...I'm going to show you things in the coming weeks in history that you just had no idea, no idea...it shows you how close we came to falling into the same kind of trap that Europe did that led to 70 million dead in China; 40 million dead with Stalin; 10 million dead by Hitler...the progressive movement, it's the same thing."

Actually Beck, the only similarity I see is your inflammatory rhetoric equal to Goebbels PR campaign against the Jews in 1933. Was Goebbels found guilty of Murder? Fuck Yes he was, and he didn't even touch a gun. Funny how you wimps are sooo good at getting weak minded people to do your bloody work for you.

Here is the OHIO Revised Code on Inciting to Violence- other states have similar laws that you can research.

2917.01 Inciting to violence.

(A) No person shall knowingly engage in conduct designed to urge or incite another to commit any offense of violence, when either of the following apply:

(1) The conduct takes place under circumstances that create a clear and present danger that any offense of violence will be committed;

(2) The conduct proximately results in the commission of any offense of violence.

(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of inciting to violence. If the offense of violence that the other person is being urged or incited to commit is a misdemeanor, inciting to violence is a misdemeanor of the first degree. If the offense of violence that the other person is being urged or incited to commit is a felony, inciting to violence is a felony of the third degree.
Effective Date: 07-01-1996

[The Backlash Cometh]

9. Backlash's hate-o-meter

For every sentence where kill, eliminate, shoot or 2nd amendment solution comes up, give the party one point. If that's the case, it would be 1000 points for Slytherin for every 1 point for Gryffindor.

[ProfessionalLeftist]

10. They can take their 'second amendment remedies' and shove them.

When innocent people and especially kids start dying because of this ignorant gun-toting, "Imma shoot yo azz 'cause I disagree wit U" bullshit, their lack of normal reasoning ability, and knuckle-dragging, thuggish ignorance ceases to be amusing anymore and it's time for THEM to "tone it down"

NO.

NOT "both sides" - ONE side.

Because NO Democrats or anyone else have maps with gun sights on them and names of anyone to "reload", "target", and "knock off". That is the 'unique' domain of the Republican Party and Teabaggers. And this crap is on THEIR heads. That's where most of the violent rhetoric comes from and that is where it needs to END.

[CrispyQ]

14. Pro, you should take the first sentence in your post

& make it into a LTTE. All of us should. We should be blasting our local papers with letters.

I used to write a few LTTE but haven't in quite a while. And yet, one of the key issues I'm concerned about, corporate personhood, I found about in a LTTE. After reading the letter, I said, "Corporations are considered people? Are you fucking kidding me?" and I went out & investigated it. LTTE do make a difference, even if the author never knows about it.

[ProfessionalLeftist]

17. I've got a little time today....

...maybe I'll do that. Thanks for the suggestion.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

11. I'm taking a different approach 'Damn Right... so lets... '

Take down ALL the names and take these people to task!

So if it's 100 to 1... fine, but we get the 100 named!

And if they refuse.............. effem.

[CrispyQ]

15. That's not a bad idea.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[A wise Man]

16. And now it begins....

What party has been the most violent against people?? REPUBLICANS!! What party shot Rossevelt, killed Kennedy and his brother, killed Martin Luther King...answer...REPUBLICANS. Who hates changes and anyone that approach change?? REPUBLICANS!! Who screwed this country from 2000 to 2008?? REPUBLICANS. Who controls 95% of the radio airwaves??? REPUBLICANS. "NUFF SAID"

[bigbrother05]

18. The 1st to point fingers at others and the 1st to cry when caught

Bullies, every one of them.

[Raine]

19. Our side can't "tone down" what they never "toned" up in the first place nt