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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:35 AM
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Poll question: Would you tell you congressman and senators to vote for the deal Obama announced?
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BNJMN Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:43 AM
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1. A better poll: Do you really even have a clue what all the deal even says? Y/N.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:47 AM
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2. what parts are you happy with?
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:53 AM
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3. I'm happy that almost none of the cuts affect 2011/2012, that 50% is from defense and other security
Edited on Mon Aug-01-11 02:53 AM by BzaDem
spending (45% from defense alone, not including veterans benefits and military pay), that most of the domestic cuts are phony and most expect future Congresses to ignore them during the appropriations process, and that it raises the debt ceiling by 2.1 trillion.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:32 AM
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4. I sincerely hope you are right about future Congresses ignoring them.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:12 AM
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13. Bza, no offense but Obama's press release says that the 50% cuts are a poison pill only go in effect
If Congress refuses to pass the special commission's entitlement reform recommendations.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 07:02 AM
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18. Yes, that is true. Congress will only pass (and Obama will sign) a commission deal if they produce a
Edited on Mon Aug-01-11 07:02 AM by BzaDem
better outcome than the triggered cuts. Dems are going to ask for tax increases, and Republicans are likely to say no. I really don't see why Democrats would agree to a deal that was less than 50% defense and/or tax increases.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:37 AM
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5. YES. Because the cuts in the Sunday agreement are the same ones that Obama proposed back on April 13
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 04:49 AM
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7. and you think those terms are important priorities right now?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:54 AM
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6. No way. n/t
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ijiji Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:09 AM
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8. in a word, no nt
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:15 AM
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9. yes, If it is indeed true that:
If it is indeed true that...

Administration officials tried to ease the sting of possible Medicare cuts by specifying that reductions would be taken in savings from providers.

For the moment, that seemed to assuage at least one pro-entitlements group. "If the trigger deal is only touching the provider side on Medicare and not beneficiaries, while not hitting Medicaid or Social Security, then Obama, Reid and Pelosi will have succeeded in almost entirely protecting these critical programs from the draconian Republican budget," said Eddie Vale, spokesman for Protect Your Care, a pro-entitlement group.

Moreover, the White House suggests it will only gain more leverage on the GOP in future talks by securing an extension of the ceiling until after the 2012 election.

Some conservatives opposed to the deal make a similar case, with RedState.com's Erick Erickson arguing that the trigger might be one big political trap for the GOP that will result in politically devastating defense and Social Security cuts.

"The defense-funding cuts will be much more massive than the Medicare cuts," he predicted. "And the GOP, in addition to seeing defense cut, would be hacking off seniors right before an election," giving Democrats an electoral answer.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/60343_Page4.html#ixzz1TlmvVzRK
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katnapped Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:13 AM
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14. Provider cuts will trickle down to beneficiaries
Stop drinking the Kool Aid
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:23 AM
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10. My Repub reps will vote for it, as will my Repub senators. Once the fed govt stops spending money,
Edited on Mon Aug-01-11 05:35 AM by Major Hogwash
the odds of a double-dip recession beginning later this year get higher.
Just in time to affect the 2012 election.

And any chance of the Democrats taking back the House of Representatives next year will be lost.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:32 AM
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11. Growth in the 1st quarter was recently restated as 0.4%, growth in the 2nd quarter was just 1.3%
With very little hope of any of the corporations or corporate banks releasing any of the trillions of dollars of cash they are now hoarding, new job numbers look increasingly flat for the rest of the year.
Unemployment is now 9.0% and doesn't seem to be diminishing much in the near future.

Winter will see a slight increase in job losses, that won't recover in time for the summer of 2012, therefore unemployment will hover around 9.0% for the rest of the year, temporarily increasing slightly during the winter, and then coming back near to the 9.0% level by the end of April next year.


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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:46 AM
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12. Were debt ceiling increases in the past also held to the same spending cut
language we're hearing now under this President?

I'm not a political historian is why I ask.

So Republicans get their spending cuts and the promise of future cuts. Nothing in the long term so we'll be going through this idiocy again in the near future. No new revenue. No guarantee that SS, Medicare/Medicaid will not have cuts in the future. No huge spending cuts in the defense department.

Is this deal supposed to be a win? :shrug:

Had a long distance wedding to go to this weekend so I need to catch up, fast.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:16 AM
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15. i don't have enough money to get Cornpone and Huchinson to listen.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:19 AM
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16. I never tell my reps to screw me over. Seems counterproductive.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:29 AM
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17. Other
It doesn't matter what I tell my congressman and Senators. They're the ones who ran into the chapel to pray over this matter, rather than listening to their constituents. What makes anyone believe they'd give a shit what I think?
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