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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:58 AM
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Why the West is Committed to the Murderous Rebels in Libya By PATRICK COCKBURN
Okay, so Younes was killed. Jalil said that, although he was in the hands of rebels and being taken for questioning, he was killed by Qaddafi loyalists. Right. Then it was admitted that he was killed by wicked Islamist rebels. Then the al-Nidaa Brigade was overrun and captured by fellow rebels because they were fifth columnists for Qaddafi. Somehow, western media reports claim that al-Nidaa is an Islamist organization, which makes little sense since Islamists (especially the LIFG) HATE Qaddafi, and for good reason. Blah, blah, blah.

You decide.

The nature of the civil war in Libya has been persistently underplayed by foreign governments and media alike. The enthusiasm in some 30 foreign capitals to recognize the mysterious self-appointed group in Benghazi as the leaders of Libya is at this stage probably motivated primarily by expectations of commercial concessions and a carve-up of oilfields.

These were the understandable motives which led Tony Blair, Nicolas Sarkozy and so many others to kow-tow humiliatingly to Gaddafi prior to the uprising, and to treat his bizarre personality cult with respect. A foreign no-fly zone and limited no-drive zone to defend Benghazi against Gaddafi's tanks could be justified in the early stage of the war, but this rapidly changed into a dubious decision to overthrow Gaddafi, relying on NATO air power and a few thousand rebel militiamen. The supposition was that Gaddafi would go down quickly, and when this did not happen it became a question of throwing good money after bad in the hope that his forces would cave in.

It has not happened yet and, with Ramadan beginning tomorrow, it is unlikely that fasting militiamen will be able to fight their way to Tripoli. Worse, the rebels' only strong card is NATO air power, so any cessation of the war in order to open the way for negotiations is against their interests.


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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:34 PM
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1. Self-kick
Nope, apparently this is not important.

That's SO disgusting.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:41 PM
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2. There was a thread on this over the weekend
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1619193

And I'll happily re-post my response, titled, "Yeah, this is definitely a murderous dispute we want to get in the middle of"

Since we decided that we don't like Gadhafi again this week, we'll throw in with an amorphous, poorly-defined and little understood group of "rebels" on the theory that whoever opposes Gadhafi (the murderous thug) must be preferable as a replacement and enjoys widespread support among the population.

I'm sure one of the cheerleaders for this incipient quagmire will be along shortly to explain it all to us naive dirty fucking hippies who can't appreciate what an unholy tyrant Gadhafi is, and how this is our best chance of ending his rule.


Besides, we'll need some reason for preserving the defense budget should the unthinkable happen, and the automatic budget cuts trigger be activated because Democrats and Republicans can't agree on stuff. We can't cut defense while so many of our star-spangled fightin' men and women are engaged in combat for our freedom!
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 09:27 PM
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3. The beat goes on.
I remember the line "ANYONE's better than the Shah"...

Reality only comes in to play when it fits with personal prejudices.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 09:51 PM
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4. I'm a bit surprised
There hasn't been the usual group appearing to teach us all about what a swell bunch of guys the rebel forces are.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 02:08 AM
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5. Silence is golden
When one needs to be loved for being morally correct and better than others, nuance is hell.

Psst: it's about oil and money.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 02:53 AM
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6. k&r
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 03:00 AM
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