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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:30 AM
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Pelosi Vows Dems Won’t Get Rolled Again
http://thinkprogress.org/yglesias/2011/08/04/288005/pelosi-vows-dems-wont-get-rolled-again/

At a meeting this morning with online writers, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi tried to persuade progressives that the Democratic caucus won’t get rolled in future hostage standoffs. The theme of the meeting was reluctance to re-hash or second guess debt ceiling strategy and attempt to get people to focus attention moving forward on jobs. But one natural forward looking question is whether we’ll simply see the same kind of standoff again and again, starting with the expiration of appropriations at the end of September. Pelosi swore that’s not the case: “Suffice it to say—we won’t see a repetition.”

When pressed she declined to get into specifics, arguing that to do so would undermine the efficacy of Democrats’ tactical options. But she posited that “a default is a much more serious consequence than a government shutdown,” indicating that part of the strategy is to be willing to go over the cliff and fight it out in the court of public opinion. Later, revisiting the subject she did specifically caution “I don’t want you coming out of here and saying I’m going to shut down the government.” The clear implication, however, is that she does in fact expect Democrats to refuse to agree to further spending cuts even if refusal results in a shutdown.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:31 AM
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1. The budget deal and New Democrats make that unlikely.
The New Dems are already talking about another tax holiday. What a damn and sick joke.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:31 AM
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2. Until next time
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:40 AM
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6. It's reduced to this:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 12:04 PM
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20. Yup
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:32 AM
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3. whatever....
no faith in the party
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:38 AM
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4. They need a new record, this one is stuck stuck stuck stuck stuck
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:38 AM
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5. Right. Sure. Uh-huh. Thanks for dropping by. How's the powder supply?
Edited on Thu Aug-04-11 11:39 AM by Tierra_y_Libertad
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:43 AM
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7. Same song, different theater. nt
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:43 AM
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8. I still hope Nancy gets the gavel back...
...and shoves it slowly up Boehner's bright orange ass.
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:48 AM
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9. Uh huh
What's that colloquial definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result, right?

It's probably already too late. Damage done.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:50 AM
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10. I can understand why Pelosi was reluctant to discuss the debt ceiling surrender
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:51 AM
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11. She voted for that BS. Why should I believe her? nt
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hulka38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:51 AM
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12. I'm glad someone in leadership acknowledged the obvious -
we got rolled yet again.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:52 AM
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13. Ignore this woman she doesn't matter it's all Obama's fault. Everything.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:54 AM
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14. what fucking idiocy
Its Lucy and the football Nancy - and you are Charlie Brown.
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richmwill Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:55 AM
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15. Uh huh- Sure, I believe you Nancy...
You were the person who said "I fully expect to still be Speaker in 5 weeks" prior to the 2010 elections, right?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:56 AM
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16. Oh just stop with the bullshit! We know the pattern now. We know EXACTLY what you people will do!
CAVE to whatever the repukes want. You NEVER fight. You NEVER stand up and defend our Democratic principles and I, for one, am finished believing anything you people say. It's ALL BULLSHIT. I'm onto your game. :grr::grr::grr:
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:57 AM
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17. Lame.
Why not just tell the truth, which is that Dems are scared shitless of Repukes and will do their bidding regardless.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:58 AM
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18. fraud
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 12:03 PM
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19. Was she invited to the last closed door meeting Obama had with the pukes?
Because if she wasn't, her statement is total bullshit. She -won't- be able to stop them, if she's unaware of the chess moves worked out in private.
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Proles Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 12:07 PM
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21. With the Democrats in power, you can never be
sure how they'll screw it up - but rest assured, they will.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 12:08 PM
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22. Sorry if I have my doubts ...
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 12:09 PM
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23. OK....
:freak: heard it before

Just do it.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 12:10 PM
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24. LOL
"This time I know I'll get to kick that football"
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 12:12 PM
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25. "When pressed she declined to get into specifics..."
"When pressed she declined to get into specifics, arguing that to do so would undermine the efficacy of Democrats’ tactical options."

:rofl:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 12:17 PM
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26. Riiiiight
until next time, Nancy. :eyes:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 12:56 PM
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27. Wait! She voted "yes" on the debt ceiling bill, so
she's sure to be primaried and defeated, right? That's what I'm hearing. :shrug:
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