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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:12 PM
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Those of us who lived the 60's..is today a horrible flashback?
Has anybody here seen my old friend Abraham?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
He freed a lot of people,
But it seems the good they die young.
You know, I just looked around and he's gone.

Anybody here seen my old friend John?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
He freed a lot of people,
But it seems the good they die young.
I just looked around and he's gone.

Anybody here seen my old friend Martin?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
He freed a lot of people,
But it seems the good they die young.
I just looked 'round and he's gone.

Didn't you love the things that they stood for?
Didn't they try to find some good for you and me?
And we'll be free
Some day soon, and it's a-gonna be one day ...

Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up over the hill,
With Abraham, Martin and John.
(Dion)

Why must the aggrieved result to guns? When does it end?
The Right sees this, or they would not be so vehement in their denial of complicity. Violence is not the answer, the heated vitriolic messages are not the answer. When will it stop? When we stop it.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:14 PM
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1. It is worse...if that is even possible. n/t
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:21 PM
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2. No. TODAY is not a horrible flashback.
Back in the 1960s when JFK, King, Malcolm X, and Bobby were assassinated there was no horde of RW flaks spinning about how they weren't responsible, it was all those stinkin' liberals' fault.

In that sense, today is a new and disgusting experience.

nauseatedly,
Bright
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:29 PM
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3. Let's see, when I graduated high school, at the end of the '60s . . .
I'd dealt with the murders of the Kennedy brothers and Martin Luther King; saw a localized war in Vietnam explode into a regional conflagration with tens of thousands of American soldiers dead and countless Vietnamese, maybe a million or more, slaughtered; witnessed fellow citizens shot down in the streets for daring to protest the increasingly reckless and illegal actions of an out-of-control President; huddled beneath school desks in mock anticipation of nuclear annihilation; witnessed a police riot in Chicago, and the disintegration of the social bonds in my hometown (Los Angeles), as well as countless other flashpoints for riots across the land -- Newark, Baltimore, Chicago, Louisville, and more; saw and participated in a raft of protests against the war, against social conditions, prison conditions, the grinding poverty that is life for too many millions in America; gasped in horror when Charles Whitman climbed the Texas U tower, reeled in shock when the Manson Family preyed together; sputtered in near impotent rage when the government refused to heed Rachel Carson's warning how we are poisoning ourselves and endured instead a corporate media blitz about the dangers of littering; debated the inanity of television and the dumbing of America; worried and complained that the media didn't cover the proper issues, that it too often gave only the government line and excluded alternative voices; worried about wars, and rumors of wars, and the relentless stockpiling of nuclear weaponry; sat in shocked disbelief as Munich unfolded; watched as a plethora of terrorist groups highjacked planes and used them as weapons against their "oppressors," flying them to Cuba & elsewheres, threatening to kill the passengers; wondered at the long-term effect of the OPEC embargo as the realization of oil's end became all too real . . . and these are just what I remember off the top, quickly typing in the early hours of a busy afternoon.

My schooling was bracketed by a death in Dallas and wanton killings in Kent. The dream -- the national fantasy inculcated into so many after the War -- died with JFK. But the hope . . . the hope spawned by Jefferson, reaffirmed by Lincoln, restored by Franklin Roosevelt . . . the hope remained, and beats as strong today as it did when I received my first diploma.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:30 PM
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4. Good God, there is no comparison
People like MLK were out in front of actual working class movements

The Left in the US today is dead - there is no organized resistance to the Ruling Class to actually silence

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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:36 PM
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5. Touché. . .
“The fault lies . . . in ourselves.”

-- Bill Shakespeare
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:43 PM
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6. EVERYTHING since 11/22/63 has been a horrible "flash back" ... over and again -- !!!
and after the shootings, they moved to planes and cancer --

it's all been connected -- from Watergate to 9/11 --

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End Of The Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:52 PM
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7. Not even close for me.
I'm saddened and dismayed by the shootings, but I hadn't even heard of Giffords before the incident. The emotional shock can't compare to the assassinations of the 60s, for me, anyway.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:54 PM
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8. In many ways, yes.

Shock, disbelief, horror, hurry to the TV ( far easier now), stop whatever you're doing and listen for more news, react powerfully.

Damn, damn.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 06:28 PM
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9. Yeah. There are a lot of differences too, but I think we are getting there
as far as illegitimate government, civil disorder, economic collapse, stupid wars, and failure of the government to govern.
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