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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:12 AM Original message |
BBC: London rioters: 'Showing the rich we do what we want' |
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xoom (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
1. wow. |
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MellonCollie (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
2. These are the type of people many on DU are cheering on |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. ditto - see links |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. yup. once again, duers fail. nt |
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pintobean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. some |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. yes. absolutely. only .... some. nt |
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GKirk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
3. Her parents must be so proud... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
5. BBC find two drunk teenagers to be the spokespersons |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. and you think they are the odd person out? that the mjority of the rioters are taking the higher |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:37 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. I am not in London so I am trying to read the analyses from |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 07:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
83. +1000 even the Observer has been interesting |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:34 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. I'm open to links to other interviews, videos, etc. which portray them in a different light. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Lots of links here |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #12 |
53. the framing of these riots is illustrative of the media's approach. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #53 |
62. By destroying local shops, injuring local people who have nothing to do with "the rich", aren't... |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 10:23 AM Response to Reply #62 |
75. those are salient examples--but last I checked it only takes one arsonist to burn a shop |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
60. why doesn't someone explain to those girls that this |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
8. I figured as much. Why this isn't the logical extension of "hate the rich" is beyond me. |
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pintobean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:33 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. logical |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:39 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Looting and taking what you want... |
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pintobean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:42 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Thieves |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
31. Because they're wrecking their own neighborhoods? |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:22 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. It is a pain to carry your newly stolen TV all the way from |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #42 |
50. So getting the TV is what's important. Not harming the rich. n/t |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #50 |
68. Look at the current UK riots and our past riots. Yes it is the TV. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
63. I imagine because violence is rarely the logical extension of anything... |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
13. You give up on kids, they will give up on you. |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:47 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. People need hope and justice - all of us but especially young people. |
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pintobean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. What a load |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #13 |
29. I tend to agree with you. They are screwed and they know it. |
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Chorophyll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Oh B.S. They're no more screwed than you or me. |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:46 AM Response to Reply #37 |
54. In case you didn't get the memo - you are very VERY screwed n/t |
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Chorophyll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 10:06 AM Response to Reply #54 |
69. Yep, I know that, boss. |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 10:11 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Good for you. Don't make a fuss, you don't want to disturb Congress or the President |
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Chorophyll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Wow, that was a great leap of logic. |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. You want to fight with me because I forced you to admit that you are politically screwed? |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:04 AM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Give me a break.. |
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gordianot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
14. This reminds me of the old David Bowie album "Diamond Dogs". |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
17. Isn't selective reporting great for catapulting the propaganda? |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:42 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. No foolin:If you've got the interview with the Ghandis and the Kings of this movement, post it. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. It's a series of riots, not a "movement". But here's something to support my position. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:16 AM Response to Reply #27 |
41. I'd seen that but it doesn't seem to reflect the senseless attacks on.... |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #41 |
52. That's because riots usually aren't about goals, but about boiled over frustration, |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
20. Wow. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:55 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Yes indeed. JHK is a true social prophet. /nt |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
22. All of this while ruining peoples' lives for their own personal and economic benefit. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
24. yep, burning down their own joint, that'll show those richy riches. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
25. Why aren't they burning down Mayfair, then? |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:59 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Ding! Ding! Ding! Exactly. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #30 |
49. Of course, there's always The City, London's Wall Street. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #25 |
57. They're getting around to it. Just have a bit of patience... nt |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #57 |
64. That's it Glider. These types of things CAN develope |
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bigbrother05 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 10:08 AM Response to Reply #25 |
70. Watching the BBC news and reports that the High Street was protected |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #70 |
77. That makes sense. Gotta protect the people who really matter, you know. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
80. Because they'd all be shot dead in the streets if they started burning Mayfair or Knightsbridge |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
32. You know what I think? The rich need to be shown this. Too bad they aren't paying attention, though |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:10 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. +1 |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
34. Yes, they are showing the rich that they can burn down other poor peoples homes. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:10 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half -- Jay Gould, Robber Baron |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:15 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Ahhh, so it's a conspiracy |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:25 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. No, not at all. |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:16 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Which is why people were willing to die to create unions. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:31 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Yes, my grandfather was one of those United Mine Workers back in the 20s, |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Rioters may yet reach central London. I have a feeling the REAL rich will get their taste of chaos. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:52 AM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Mayfair is pretty swanky. And it is the home of many of the City types |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 07:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
82. And the rich don't need to burn down poor people's homes to destroy |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
39. "Riots are about power, and they are about catharsis" |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:28 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Excellent blog post - worth the read from the vantage point of a real Londoner... |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #39 |
55. Like you I'm amazed by the attitudes and opinions on display here today. |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. + 1 ;-) |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #55 |
61. I'm sure the same cohort view the LA riots as little more than |
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laundry_queen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #55 |
65. You know, sometimes I sit and wonder |
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laundry_queen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #55 |
67. Double post. nt |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #55 |
78. A relevant tweet --- sigh |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 10:13 AM Response to Reply #39 |
72. powerful blog post. Thanks for the link. |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
43. i wish they could focus all this energy on an election. hell, form a tea-party. anything. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:27 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Exactly. Anything other than burning down businesses in your own neighborhood. |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #43 |
66. If you read the blog post by the London resident, |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
46. How about this, then, from today's NY Times: |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #46 |
56. It's too bad that out of that whole long article, they don't seem to explore... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
73. Sometimes, that's enough. n/t |
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The Northerner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
79. K&R n/t |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
81. "freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose..." |
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