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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:01 PM Original message |
Mother bear kills cub and then itself (suicide at Chinese "bile farm") |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. Traditional Chinese "Medicine" strikes again |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. fucking quack bullshit. I hope the karma these fuckers are |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
135. Yes. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
122. They're experts at species extinction, too. |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
2. Good ol' TCM. n/t |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. The only thing that surprised me in this story... |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. Does a bear even know how to kill itself? |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Here's that part of the article. You can decide: |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. Thank you. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. You are so wrong. |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. Usually, such a statement comes with a supporting argument. |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 03:24 AM Response to Reply #31 |
83. An animal in tremendous pain can be very violent even to itself. nt |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
45. humans are animals. n/t |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
114. wrong location |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #21 |
117. Not too many animals are genetically adapted to commit suicide. |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #117 |
132. dolphins have |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #132 |
137. I did say, not too many. |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #137 |
145. I posit that most suicides |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #145 |
150. No way could bashing your head into a wall be perceived as a way to end to pain. |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #150 |
161. To deny it is suicide |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 05:53 PM Response to Reply #161 |
163. No I'm not. Where is the evidence strongest . . . |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
121. It's funny how humans think other animals are unaware |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 02:13 PM Response to Reply #121 |
143. Lots of animals destroy their habitat |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #121 |
153. +1000. nt |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 12:27 AM Response to Reply #121 |
176. You are very wise, indeed. |
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Towlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
138. You're almost certainly right, but it's understandable that people don't want to hear it. |
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demigoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
162. no , believe me, i have seen more humanity from animals |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
87. ... |
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Curmudgeoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. On the other side of that coin, |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. +1000 |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. I'm with you. |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
34. Much underestimation of animals stems from the Genesis myth. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #7 |
98. +1 n/t |
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fishbulb703 (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
141. I agree completely. |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. It's a fair question, but |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. Bears are very |
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harvey007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
39. Humans are so arrogant |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Okay, here's the problem with that. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:20 AM Response to Reply #39 |
74. Wow. You've never raised and/or butchered rabbits, perhaps? |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #39 |
139. We grew up raising rabbits and mothers killing the offspring is not a rare instance |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 08:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
41. (facepalm) |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. Really? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:59 AM Response to Reply #52 |
78. Simply? Yes. |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
42. Personification |
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trud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
53. sofa king |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. So that's who "ignored" is |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Deleted message |
boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:38 AM Response to Reply #59 |
76. Okay, I only know about a few people that Tolkien obsessed..... |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. I'm arguing for self awareness, too! |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:35 AM Response to Reply #58 |
75. Suicide is a loaded, human, word. |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 12:44 AM Response to Reply #58 |
178. Yes this such a light humorous thread |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 12:01 AM Response to Reply #53 |
172. Boy, am I with you!!!! eom |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:54 AM Response to Reply #3 |
77. "know how to kill itself" is a logic flaw. |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
97. Not had many animal friends in your life, I guess. This doesn't surprise me at all. |
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Drahthaardogs (482 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
151. Donald Griffin would disagree with you. |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
171. Suicide is a fundamental biological process |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 12:22 AM Response to Reply #171 |
175. Killing your offspring is not a fundamental biological process. |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 12:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
173. The term is anthropomorphism. |
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booley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 04:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
184. Hard to say but not necessarily |
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BackToThe60s (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. God Damn Us, Every One |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Your first step at redemption is to stop eating meat. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. No. The first step is treating your food with compassion. No more huge factory farms |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #20 |
89. You can't kill something to eat it and do it with "compassion" |
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Muskypundit (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #89 |
133. Its perfectly natural for humans to eat meat. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #133 |
190. there is a big difference between factory farm raised animals and those raised |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #89 |
189. I take it you are a Breatharian then? Or maybe only a Fruitarian. Or maybe don't understand |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. I agree. At least you will be saving one animal from being killed |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 01:02 AM Response to Reply #8 |
79. Define "meat". |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #79 |
86. This post is so stupid |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #86 |
157. You wanna laugh real hard? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:57 PM Response to Reply #86 |
167. Well, it seems you're on to a definition. That's a good start. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:23 AM Response to Reply #79 |
105. People who claim to love meat are generally not satisfied with yogurt or yeast. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:07 PM Response to Reply #105 |
168. Both yogurt and bread are made out of living, mobile, creatures. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 02:16 AM Response to Reply #168 |
183. An animal is any creature in the animal kingdom. |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 12:32 AM Response to Reply #79 |
177. What a silly rationalization. |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:18 AM Response to Reply #8 |
85. Yeah, and the best part is |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 12:18 AM Response to Reply #8 |
174. How do you know we aren't already vegetarians? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. Hear |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
9. That's heartbreaking. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
11. That's effing |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
16. More on these horrible bile farms from WIKI |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
159. Thanks, but I can't read another article. I'm still crying from reading this one. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #159 |
160. It's beyond |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
17. Fuck. nt |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
18. I just saw a show about shark fin soup, the Asian culture will be responsible for the extinction of |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Deleted message |
renate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
46. please don't paint all of alternative medicine with such a broad brush |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. There's no such thing as "the Asian culture." |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 11:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
61. Yes you are correct, they are different issues in different countries. I do not agree that |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
192. It isn't inherently racist. It's the Chinese culture, not the race. |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
19. Too horrible |
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blueclown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. The U.S. has no room to talk... |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. True |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 11:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
68. Then by all means, let's shut up and not say a single word about these bear cruelties. |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
70. Here are some sites that are trying to help: |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
22. Were are are all the defenders of Alternative "Medicine"? |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Mercola probably hasn't given them talking points yet. n/t |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. I am a defender |
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BuddhaGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. +1 |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #36 |
155. Apparently plenty of people in China "who [are] interested in alternative medicine" |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #22 |
100. I read the article yesterday but it did mention that |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 08:56 PM Response to Reply #22 |
165. not all "alternative medicine" is created equal |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
26. It must be stopped. I can't bear it, and that's no joke. |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Did you know... |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 08:29 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. Feel the same |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Me, too. Intentional infliction of pain cannot stand. I'm with you. |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 11:08 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. OK - I will . n/t |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
29. AAArrrrghh! |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
30. That's disgusting! The poor bears. nt |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
33. It's right to be outraged over this. |
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BuddhaGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. +1 |
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donna123 (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
55. There should always be concern, true |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 01:17 AM Response to Reply #55 |
180. Be careful how quickly you rationalize away what is done in this country. |
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harvey007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
40. Have you seen this??? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #40 |
107. Awesome. nt |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
49. Must refrain from Palin mama grizzly jokes ;) n/t |
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SusanaMontana41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
51. God. Human cruelty has no limits. n/t |
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donna123 (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
54. This is why the Chinese should not rule the world |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #54 |
73. Here's more evidence for your statement. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
56. Animal suicides are more common than most people realize |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 11:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. When my Dad died and I was having a very hard time, my dog stopped |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 01:10 AM Response to Reply #56 |
80. "Animal suicides are more common "... |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #80 |
113. The underlying problem is the pain and agony one goes through to |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:26 PM Response to Reply #113 |
169. Having seen more than a few friends and family in my life that went down such a road... |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 07:39 AM Response to Reply #169 |
185. I recently lost my Dad to suicide, I'm so sorry |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 01:28 AM Response to Reply #80 |
182. No one should be forced to kill themselves |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
63. OMFG. I can't begin to fathom the evil that resides in some humans. |
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geomon666 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
64. That's fucked up n/t |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
65. This is horrifying and so gravely sad. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
66. Torture -- and bears obviously have ability to decide on suicide ... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
67. What can be done to animals is usually also later done to human beings -- !! |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
69. Here is a Facebook group --- please join. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 11:57 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Thank you for these. n/t. |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
72. wow, that just made me sick to my stomach |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
81. And they are not even Biblical dominionists. |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 03:20 AM Response to Original message |
82. Sickening. What does it take to get China to outlaw these barbaric pratices? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #82 |
109. I think the US should clean its own house first. nt |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
84. This is disgusting, BUT |
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cableman24 (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
88. so now we should tell ANOTHER country what it can and cannot do? |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. No - we tell |
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cableman24 (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. so you want to tell a private company where is can place its business? |
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Locrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #91 |
102. Fuck yes. |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #91 |
118. As a consumer - YES! |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #91 |
124. Um, we already do. It's called "ZONING LAWS." |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #88 |
92. what does American have to do with it? |
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cableman24 (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:44 AM Original message |
there are a lot of things different countries in the world do wrong, bit I'm not going to |
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idiotgardener (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
104. LOL I don't believe you for a second. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #104 |
126. Why would you assume that? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
125. WTH cares? |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 01:21 AM Response to Reply #125 |
181. Aren't you the kind compassionate sort? N/T |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #88 |
112. Who suggested that before you brought it up? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #88 |
123. Why do you hate tigers and white rhinos? |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #88 |
154. That's a teabagger's stretch if ever there was one |
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Fokker Trip (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
93. I frankly have no words. |
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cableman24 (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
94. if its done in China, then let the chinese deal with it. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:54 AM Response to Reply #94 |
96. I believe you're conflating the phrase "let them deal with it" with concern |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #94 |
116. Jmo, but I think we have the responsibility to peacefully do what we can to stop all |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #94 |
129. It isn't a "Chinese problem"; it's a BEAR problem. And BEARS are Nature's. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #94 |
156. Historically WE HAVE |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 01:08 AM Response to Reply #94 |
179. We share this world. |
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nolabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
95. As someone who has actually worked with captive bears |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
99. How horrific. What type of people knowingly, and repeatedly, inflict pain.... |
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cableman24 (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #99 |
101. human beings? |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
103. horrifying...even worse than the veal farms in CA's central valley.... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #103 |
127. I get the "...." And eschew veal. :-) |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #127 |
191. that's great! :-) |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
106. Folk medicine using animals exists in a lot of the world |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #106 |
110. Premarin is more synthetically produced now, though there are still |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #106 |
120. Bear bile duct now is also synthetically produced. |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #106 |
149. "It just seems especially hideous in China because we expect them to be more civilized"? |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #106 |
188. No, I think it really is worse in China. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
108. omg |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
111. Do Not Question Our Future Overlords! nt |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
115. Sign the petition to end bear farming. It is supported by the WSPA and Jackie Chan. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. Done and passed along. n/t. |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #115 |
131. done and passed and suggest that this have its own thread. k&r |
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geardaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #115 |
136. Done! |
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byronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #115 |
148. Thanks for that. Done. |
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idiotgardener (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #115 |
158. There is a group fighting this |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #115 |
164. I recommended this thread, and then thought powerless. Who is going to stop this? |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #115 |
187. done; thanks for this link |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
128. Lord have mercy. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
130. fucking humans.... |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
134. A "bile farm"??!! |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
140. well, i avoided this for as long as i could. and it's horrifying. |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
142. Even the animals are tired of being used as slaves... |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
144. Think the desperation speaks for itself; moots the issue of human-style "suicide." |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
146. BREAKS MY HEART |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
147. I see a lot of posters having a hard time believing a bear has |
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Beavker (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
152. God's people, made in his image... |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
166. I don't know a lot about bear psychology |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
170. I haven't read all the replies on this thread |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
186. wish this OP could be permanently displayed....... |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
193. I felt depressed after reading this, as many of you did. |
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