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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:15 AM
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"Heated, Hated Right-Wing Rhetoric" Will Continue Until Left "Get[s] Out Of The Way"
So much for any thought this tragedy in Tuscon would "mediate" any of the hate and vitriol of the right.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201101110005

In a January 10 Big Government post, blogger Jeff Perren claimed that the only way to stop the "heated, hated right-wing rhetoric" would be for Democrats to "give up" and "get out of the way" of conservatives. From Big Government:

If the Left wants to eliminate at a stroke the vast majority of heated, hated right-wing rhetoric there's a very simple way to do that: give up.

Get out of the way. Stop advocating the violation of individual rights every day in every way. Stop trying to get legislation passed that steals private property for the purpose of funding your favorite social engineering goals. Stop extolling the alleged virtue of interpreting the U.S. Constitution in ways that further Progressive goals. End your advocacy of coercion through government.

Your cause is not noble, your methods are not virtuous, your philosophy is not just. Your ideas are more than mistaken; they're immoral, impractical, and unconstitutional. Change your philosophy and change your behavior and 'the Right' will have no longer have an incentive to fight back against your support for squishy tyranny.

Until then, you can expect the rhetoric to continue. A vocal segment of the American people will simply no longer sit back passively and watch their freedom get corroded away, one bad edict at a time.

Until then, the intellectual revolution to restore it will continue undiminished.

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So, I guess the "lesson" the right is taking from this is..."Surrender, or more of you will get killed"

What the "eff" happened to my country?
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:18 AM
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1. Boehner and Cantor acknowledged as much in their statements--bidness as usual for them
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:21 AM
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4. So he rejects "squishy tyranny"
in favor of "strict, ball-crushing tyranny"??????

WTFO?
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:18 AM
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2. They're fucking bullies. This is how bullies behave. Unfortunately,
we are unwilling to to respond/treat bullies how they MUST be treated.
Failure to do so will result in escalation and even more intimidation.
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:24 AM
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8. Exactly. Bullying is now considered a big problem in schools and society
but not in politics. Why is that? Because that's exactly what this crap is.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:20 AM
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3. I hope whoever wrote that doesn't own a gun because they sound just
as paranoid and bat shit crazy as jared loughner.

"the government is the enemy" nutcases are always ALWAYS on the right. the right knows it. the left knows it. everyone in between knows it. they are IDIOTS for denying what everyone knows. IDIOTS!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:23 AM
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6. wow. really? so disagreeing from the left now equals batshit crazy better not have a gun
way to silence someone who disagrees with you
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:27 AM
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10. Wrong! It's not about just disagreeing. It's the rhetoric being used.
they are telling us (I'm assuming you're a liberal?) that our beliefs are unconstitutional and we should get out of the way. ummm.. YES! I do disagree with that absurd accusation. That is a fucking CRAZY statement!! The anti-government types who want to do away with liberals altogether ARE BAT SHIT CRAZY!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:29 AM
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11. thanks for clarification. i misread your post. nt
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:22 AM
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5. exactly. before i blamed the hate talkers. then blamed those that voted for and watched them
because they validated adn condoned. now the people that are excusing them with this are allowing it to continue. and the next one is on their hands.

it is enabling.

part of the problem, or solution

that is all.
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:23 AM
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7. The Wingnuts are bullies and control freaks
not to mention TERRORISTS and psychopaths.

Great.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:24 AM
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9. Bet that coward won't be one of the leaders of the revolution ...
Nope ... he'll be standing WAY IN THE BACK (next to Limbaugh and Beck and Palin), screaming just loud enough to keep the crazies in front of him moving forward.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:29 AM
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12. From what I can tell from talking with Americans,
most of you are centre left. The Noisy Right is a minority, even though the population is convinced, by some alchemy, that the country is entirely centre right (which would be far right anywhere else, but I digress). People who have claimed to be lifelong Republicans have turned out to be more progressive than they had at first admitted; I finally got a 62-year-old friend to admit that she is a Democrat at least, more probably a progressive.

It's been interesting, watching the elephant to the south for 60 years, and it's gone from insanity to insanity, until now, the crazies are running the place. It's not just the media, of course, but the media have played a larger hand than they ought to have.

However, the Noisy Right rely on intimidation; bullying works, and always has, with a people who are taught to be afraid of everything practically from their first breath.

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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:29 AM
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13. Wait. What? "the intellectual revolution..."
Intellectual? There hasn't been anything intellectual about the Right since ol' William F. Buckley got kicked to the curb.

The puppet masters of the Right are about pure greed, and the hate-intoxicated mobs they manipulate are utterly clueless.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:39 AM
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14. As Clint Eastwood once said...
In a Dirty Harry movie, "Go Ahead, make my day"
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:38 PM
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15. This rant is precisely what is wrong today
This is how you "de-humanize" people.

This is how you convice otherwise "good" Germans to send millions to the gas-chamber.

It's not; "well, I disagree with your position on Health Care"...it's; "You're Evil!!!"

It's not; "I think Government should not have a role in that"...it's; "You're trying to destroy America!!!!"

It's not; "I think taxes are too high"...it's; "you want to steal from me and my children!!!!"

It's not; "There should be some restrictions on abortion"...it's; "you're a baby-killer!!!!"

It's not; "Raising the top marginal rate to 39% will reduce growth"...it's; "you're a communist, socialist pinko Marxist"

It's not; "Allow Medicare to re-imburse end of life and hospice counselling"...it's "you want to kill Grandma!!!!!"

Why should the "right" change their heated rhetoric....it works!

I weep for my country!
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Last_Stand Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:47 PM
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17. delete - I think I misunderstood your reply...thanks for this
Edited on Tue Jan-11-11 12:49 PM by Last_Stand
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End Of The Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:48 PM
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19. You say it so well. + 1 (nt)
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:44 PM
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16. Right, like I'm going to listen to a doughy greybeard brownshirt like that.


I would just point and laugh at him.

"Get out of the way" . . . QUIET, gnat-man-douche! You've HAD your thirty years. They sucked. You LOSE. Good DAY sir!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:47 PM
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18. After eight years of going along with Junior, hearing them whine about "individual rights"
is laughable. Like all of their "principles," individual rights are only important when there is a Democrat in office. These clueless, brainwashed, ignorant fools can kiss my arse.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:16 PM
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27. damn straight
Individual rights = my money.... nothing more just their precious money. Illegal wire taps, warrantless searches, torture and suspension of rights.....Crickets

Money for bombs is just good old patriotism.

Health care though... OH MY GOD BIG EVIL GOVERNMENT THE SKY IS FALLING SOMEBODY HELP ME



FUCK THE RIGHT
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:49 PM
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20. "violation of individual rights" - you mean, like outlawing abortion and birth control?
Please explain further, dipshit.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:50 PM
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21. If he wants to find squishy tyranny, he should check Sen. Vitter's pants. nt
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:53 PM
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22. There's a better way - a simple way as well: put Fox out of business.
How do we accomplish that?
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:04 PM
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24. I don't know how we do that, but I fear
this act is going to further "embolden" the fringe individuals on the "right". I hate to say it, but I won't be surprised if we see more of these "deranged, unstable, lone-gunmen, WHO ALWAYS, (BY SIMPLE COINCIDENCE, OF COURSE), KILL, MAIM, INJURE OR MAIL DANGEROUS TOXIC SUBSTANCES EXCLUSIVELY TO DEMOCRATIC POLITICIANS" resort to "2ND Amendment solutions".

Naturally, those future events will have absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the right-wing talkers and politicians have spent 30 years demonizing and dehumanizing anyone who disagrees with them :sarcasm:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:03 PM
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23. Liberals will NEVER GIVE UP! Listen long and hard you lurkers.
I know why so many people hate the far left - we just won't shut up or go away no matter WHO it is telling us to stfu and sitdown! I'm glad to know we are being told to 'step aside' it lets me know we are right on message and need to ramp up our fight against the ignorance that is killing our country.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:12 PM
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25. Taking his money for social engineering programs
He finds that evil and immoral.

Hey ass funk how about taking my money to kill kids halfway around the world. For making bombs and bullets and using them in my name. How about not stealing my money, you hypocritical oaf.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:15 PM
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26. Screw off, wingnuts.
If you can't find a way to oppose without being stupid and violent, then I guess that's your own fault.
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