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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:56 AM
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The Right purposely created a climate of DANGER and FEAR in politics, Dems never did that
THAT is the issue. Not who wasn't "civil" enough in some comment posting, or isolated public comment. This is about making it so that ordinariy people now have to worry about themselves or their childrean being KILLED or INJURED at a local political event. It's about making people afraid to run for office as a Dem candidate, including current incumbents.

This is something that all Dem voters and polticians now have to worry about. Repubs do not. They are not threatened. THAT is what shows how one-sided this is. I would like to see a list of all serious threats of violence that have been received by politicians since 2008, and I'll bet that 90+% would be against Dems. I'd bet "the ranch" on it. And I'd win that bet. In fact, I think such a list should exist, and it should be known to local law enforcement, who could then provide better security at political events such as Giffords'.

How many here will now have to think twice about going to a meet-and-greet or a townhall for a Dem candidate in one of the "targeted districts"? Or taking one of your children or grandchildren along? The truth is, that such a basic political activity has now become a life-threatening experience. You could die there, that's how bad it has become. While that may be unlikely on a probability basis, it IS likely that a voter could be injured in a fight by a Repub disrupter at a townhall or other indoor event. Because that's the kind of thing they do nowadays. And Repub disrupters bring guns to events, that also is new and part of the tactics lately.

I don't know about you but yes, I'd think about those things when going to a political event now. It wouldn't stop me, but I'd think about it. Lots of people WILL BE stopped by it though, and will not attend political events anymore - especially in "hot" areas. What will that do to the chances of Dem candidates? More will lose and there will be fewer and this will grow. This is brown-shirt intimidation we're seeing now, and it will destroy our democracy if it's allowed to run its course without limiting it. It will have to be restrained sometime, and that will be easier to do now, than later as its strength grows.

Are BOTH SIDES facing the same danger? NO.

Repub candidates are not worried about being attacked violently and neither are their supporters. Why? Because THEY are the ones doing it. THEY are the ones intentionally whipping up THEIR contingent to do it, by means of demonizing hate and outright lies and disinformaation 24/7.

And that (lack of equal threat faced by Repubs) is the PROOF that only one side has the responsibility for this. It is a threat that is real, and it is serious, and it is being caused and created solely by Repubs. And this widespread climate of danger and fear could not have been created by grassroots individuals, but was done by organized top-level tactics. Intentionally. Repubs and only Repubs are RESPONSIBLE for this. I'm not talking about the specific shooting that occurred, I'm talking about the CLIMATE OF DANGER. Yes, they are responsible for it. And it must STOP. NOW. There can be no debate about that.

Repubs are accountable for the danger. Dems are the other side of it. If we don't bring this up, who will? And if we don't break out of the "both sides" argument, the point will be lost, much less DOING anything about it. We have to make this clear. And we have to INSIST that it stops.

This is a matter of life and death now. And it's a matter of our democracy.

To paraphrase Big Dog... it's the climate of danger and fear stupid. Don't lose the message in the confusion of this case. It's the danger and fear. This case is the proof of it. The Repubs are responsible for it. Only them.

The Repub leadership need to be co-defendants in this case, frankly. I wish they were. But we can at least make that case "in the court of public opinion". That, we can do. But we need to STAY ON MESSAGE.

Keep it simple, and keep coming back to the point. That's what I'd like to see, and what I hope for, anyway - from our writers and spokesmen including us. This case will be in the news for quite a while. We need to use that time and seize the moment, because this is important.

Any one of us could've been dead on that parking lot, or lying injured. Remember that.

Us, not the Repubs. They're not worried are they, and that's the point. They know they don't need to be worried, we do.

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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:59 AM
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1. Exactly.
But, try getting some common sense through the commercial media. Good luck.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:00 PM
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2. Kick and Rec
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:02 PM
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3. It's their trademark and distinguishing feature
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:03 PM
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:07 PM
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5. +1
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:07 PM
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6. Regulated behavior.
Whether it's banking or personal behavior, I am beginning to see a common thread.

These people want to work outside of the system. But America was created for a reason. We wanted a system. We don't want a country that is a free-for-all. That was the law of the jungle. Survival of the strongest. As it stands, those who want to simply steal what they want have managed to deregulate things back to a state where the law of the jungle allows them to do whatever they want. Bankers, military contractors, and on a personal level, people who think they can intimidate through force.

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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 02:11 PM
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10. Deregulation=legalizing crime
The powerful criminals today have it made. They became so rich from their legalizing crime strategy, that now they have simply bought the government, whole. And we still refuse to even consider taxing them down to size because the voting public is fooled into being on their side too.

Very depressing. But one can't lose hope.

But yes, I see the pattern too. It's there in almost every problem we face, on all different kinds of issues.

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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:07 PM
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7. It's all they've got left.
Most people who still vote Republican know deep down that Republican economic policies won't help them. The big money boys know that fear and loathing of "liberals" are the only thing keeping their flock from bolting.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:21 PM
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8. Related GD post: RW said they would constantly attack us, make us fearful to speak out...
By madfloridian with lots of detailed info:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x165553

It goes to the fact that this is intentional and organized from the top. I meant to link to it but forgot to.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:08 PM
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9. Yet, we are in DANGER and FEAR when the Republicans are in charge. nt
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