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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:35 PM
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January 8th 2011 - Who Is Not Responsible?
Edited on Tue Jan-11-11 11:54 PM by truedelphi
It is said that insanity is merely doing the same thing over and over again, yet expecting some different results.

Sometime on Sat Jan 9th 2011, a lone gunman opened fire on a group of people in Arizona, leaving twenty people wounded, six fatally, and putting the target of his ambition, Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, in critical condition.

Much is now being made of the fact that the year 2010 was a year in which huge amounts of money were diverted from the mental health fund for Pima County AZ. There is now ample speculation that had this money diversion not occurred, then perhaps Loughner would not have been roaming the streets equipped with an automatic gun and ready to use it. Instead we are to assume that Loughner would have obtained the services that his mental condition required.

Making those assumptions is simply one of the many ways that people cope with this tragedy. And of course, none of us will ever know.

However, if we examine the previous July, when only a handful of our elected officials voted against the 33 Billion dollar budgetary item that ensures this nation's ability to continue to wage a war in Afghanistan, then an insightful picture comes into focus.

It no longer seems possible to allow our states to afford many necessary activities, such as education, fire fighting, social programs or mental health services. There are wars to fight, dammit. And before anyone ask for such services, the accounting must be done, and the wars must be allocated the monies for those primary activities. This is the nation that we have become, the very nation that Dwight D Eisenhower once warned us of:

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

Dwight D. Eisenhower

Between the heist of the eleven to thirty trillion dollars (and counting) "electronic monies" that the Geithner/Bernanke duo have trundled out the back door of the Federal Reserve, over to their friends on Wall Street, and the trillions of dollars spent on Homeland Security matters, including TSA, together with the monies spent on our wars and military adventures, we citizens have been robbed. We now live in an age where the provision of any type of social services for the People is not possible.

If you wanna start saying that it is the RW Talking Heads who bear responsibility, you won't find any argument from me there. Their actions have been the political equivalent of a hypnotic trance imposed upon the minds of many people - their notion that violence is a normal and decent way to solve one's problems, dislikes and concerns.

But until we find ourselves people in Congress willing to relinquish the campaign funds from the MIC lobbyists, we will not see the return of funding for mental health matters. And so a vicious circle is created, and will not be slowed from its ascent to power any time soon.






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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:44 PM
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1. K&R = It's just a question of time until the next Loughner. Nothing we are doing is making us any
safer.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 02:27 PM
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7. And yet they continue to funnel endless dollars into
Homeland Security.

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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:50 PM
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2. Crazy is a right. Guns and ammo aren't.
Edited on Tue Jan-11-11 11:50 PM by sharesunited
I don't know how more plainly to state it.

Stopping our foreign incursions and bringing all the troops home to make funds available for mental health treatment of persons who may or may not want treatment is entirely beside the point.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 12:47 PM
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4. Without guns and ammo, we would not be mourning 19 wounded and 6 dead ....
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 12:48 PM
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5. America needs to awaken to the GOP/NRA push for a violent America ....
Edited on Wed Jan-12-11 12:50 PM by defendandprotect
it's the only way the right wing can rise --

from JFK to Gabby Giffords --

violence is their pathway to a complete takeover of government --

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 12:46 PM
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3. Democrats have been funding these wars since '06 ...following Pelosi's declaration that ...
"Democrats were elected to end the war!"

That's on video --

Refunding these wars is a criminal act, imo, by our elected officials -

the wars themselves are illegal, immoral and acts of aggression by our own nation --

and there has to be a way of stopping this insanity.

Voting for Republicans won't stop it -- and sadly, it looks like voting for Democrats

isn't stopping it either!

What turned Pelosi from doing the right thing after '06?

And in . . . '07, '08, '09, '10 -- and now '11 --

with Obama moving the date to end Afghanistan to '12 --

and Biden saying we should still be there in '14 --



How insane are we all -- and how many of us willing to continue to support this insanity?



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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 02:26 PM
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6. I too remember that statement of Pelosi's.
And I remember my confusion and anger when that statement was ignored and put "off the table."



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