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Mon Aug-22-11 08:33 PM
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Poll question: Are you better off now than you were two years ago? |
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The economy stabilized about two years ago. How has your own economic situation changed since then? Mine's gotten a little bit better, if anyone cares.
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Mon Aug-22-11 08:34 PM
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1. About the same, which isn't all that great. nt |
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Mon Aug-22-11 08:35 PM
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2. Same pay + inflation = worse off |
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Mon Aug-22-11 08:36 PM
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3. better off - not where I want to be - but Repubs had ruined the |
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economy then and are trying like hell to do it again.
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Mon Aug-22-11 08:37 PM
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4. My economic situation is better |
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Edited on Mon Aug-22-11 08:39 PM by Cali_Democrat
But my experience probably isn't common. Thankfully my job hasn't been outsourced...yet.
On the whole, I think Americans are probably worse off.
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Mon Aug-22-11 08:38 PM
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I'm working my ass off and swallowing some pride, but I have a steadier income.
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Mon Aug-22-11 08:38 PM
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6. I've lost a lot of money. Nt |
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:11 PM
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Mon Aug-22-11 08:39 PM
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7. Medical coverage slashed |
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Employer granted waiver. Pay frozen due to economic situation. Longer hours, with inflation, less money. House underwater, but still required to pay for it. I would quit and show the employer a thing or too, but with me being one of 55% of the people in the nation actually employed, I figure I'm lucky to have a job.
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Mon Aug-22-11 08:45 PM
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8. Were it not for my better half... I'd be so much worse... |
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No ability to get hours to earn "benefits".... What a permanent slap in the face... And, I'm in a field that should have options. It's just good fortune that he has done better after also waiting sooooooooooo long, and not sure if he would do better before retirement.
Face it.... you're not supposed to retire, not that we counted on it, but you pay in for years to help the safety net and... they want to take this away while telling you to grab those ankles and get ready.
Fueling a certain point of explosion... I'm pretty sure of it now.
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Mon Aug-22-11 08:51 PM
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Mon Aug-22-11 08:51 PM
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11. Better off now that we sold our home |
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We didn't make much in equity but it isn't costing us and we downsized and can when the time comes to live on about 12K a year plus have a little money in the bank for back up.
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Tue Aug-23-11 12:22 AM
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60. That's what we NEED to do |
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It would make a big difference for us.
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Mon Aug-22-11 08:53 PM
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12. I was sort of forced into early retirement because my employer |
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shut down. I am worried about my income in retirement, I get SS, a PBGC pension, a company pension and a union pension. They all don't add up to that much but it looks like the odds are pretty high I will loose or get a cut in one or more of them. I guess I could say I am worse off since I was forced to retire but I haven't regretted taking my retirement for on second.
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Mon Aug-22-11 08:56 PM
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13. I was damn near homeless 2 years ago |
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Obama made a big difference. The switch from repuglycan rule was very very good.
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:01 PM
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17. That's fantastic! It must be an incredible relief. nt |
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:05 PM
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Just having Democrats in power was reason for hope. So when I see poeple talking shit about voting out Democrats, it is a real pisser, know what I mean?
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Mon Aug-22-11 08:56 PM
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14. other: i'd vote worse off but an ad is blocking my ability to respond. |
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Edited on Mon Aug-22-11 08:58 PM by indurancevile
and it's typically the case that there is an ad blocking every poll i am interested in responding to.
i don;t mind ads, but when they block the text it's quite irritating.
and since there are so many ad revenues, to the point of obscuring the content, i am beginning to wonder why the need to solicit donations.
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:21 PM
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31. I use Firefox with adblocker. |
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Never have any trouble responding to polls with that browser.
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Mon Aug-22-11 10:05 PM
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that isn't the site. do you enlarge your text? sometime with larger font sizes things overlap.
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Mon Aug-22-11 11:59 PM
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55. no, i don't. i have no idea what you mean by it isn't the site. i use ie & firefox, happens with |
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Edited on Tue Aug-23-11 12:01 AM by indurancevile
both. it's site-dependent.
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Mon Aug-22-11 08:56 PM
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15. I'm not seeing the economic stability. Where are you getting the 2 year stability data? |
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Plus I'm two years older and that sucks.
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:04 PM
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19. Look at historical data - things stopped plummeting about 2 years ago |
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I was curious to see if people felt things were holding steady or changing since then, hence this poll.
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:00 PM
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16. Everybody is worse off |
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Edited on Mon Aug-22-11 09:03 PM by fascisthunter
to say otherwise shows how limited ones thinking is. When your country as a whole suffers, what money you or I make now, will mean very little... nobody is secure. What we are seeing right before our eyes, is a disaster.... what is considered success when your country goes down and you witness the death of the Greatest America Experiment, Democracy?
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:05 PM
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23. Obama is better than Bush |
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But that's not such a high bar.
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:12 PM
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shows that you have a really bad memory.... but I'm sure you will be working hard as you have for so long, making sure that shit happens so that you'll be able to remember!
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:10 PM
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25. It's this kind of supportiveness that makes DU a community. Thanks. n/t |
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:51 PM
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36. Please Do Not Post THAT So Close to Dinner Time |
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You probably made several dozen DU'ers lose their supper. :puke:
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:04 PM
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20. Wait...what happened to stabilize the economy 2 yrs ago? |
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:05 PM
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Long-term unemployed with no prospects of finding employment anytime soon. Am depleting my savings. Haven't seen a doctor in nearly 15 years.
I'm living the Amerikkkan dream.
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:09 PM
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24. That sucks. In what part of the country do you live? |
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Edited on Mon Aug-22-11 09:11 PM by MannyGoldstein
So many people are having a difficult time. Certainly this is not the America we grew up to expect.
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:15 PM
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My brother died last year so I am now an only child left to care for my aging parents. That limits my options even more.
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:18 PM
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29. My heart is with you. That must be very difficult in so many ways. |
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How do we end this nightmare?
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Mon Aug-22-11 10:11 PM
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I have dreams of buying my way out of this country someday. I don't see it getting better here during my lifetime. That may not happen but I can dream.
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:19 PM
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30. other than the fact I don't have to see/hear dubya as much |
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:41 PM
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32. I am a thousand times 'better off', but it has nothing to do with the economy. |
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However I answered yes anyway because objectively, I'm better off there too, even if it's not huge.
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:45 PM
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33. I'm better off, but only because of a small inheritance |
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Business is still down from its previous levels.
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:50 PM
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34. I've moved back to the states. Food prices are higher here overall. |
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Edited on Mon Aug-22-11 09:50 PM by Solly Mack
That's been my experience anyway. I was kind of surprised by it.
So, my grocery bill has gone up (& quality has gone down). Still, I'm doing OK otherwise. I wouldn't say better but we haven't lost any ground either; not really. I was doing OK before & still doing OK now.
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Mon Aug-22-11 09:50 PM
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It's like trying to bail out the titanic with a teacup :(
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Mon Aug-22-11 10:09 PM
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38. I'm not better off - 2 years ago I had a shitty job at walmart |
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today I have none at all.
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Mon Aug-22-11 10:13 PM
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40. Far worse off. Had a great job, laid off and out of work for 1 1/2 years. |
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Way worse off.
Not even a hint of better things to come.
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Mon Aug-22-11 10:16 PM
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41. I'm a lot better off. |
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I also know I'm fortunate. I saw all this coming back in 2005/2206 and got out of all my debt. If I didn't need it I sold it. I should write a book about how to downsize and get back into a sustainable spending pattern. My home is paid for now and I have no personal bills other than utilities, insurance and property taxes. It is the most liberating, and wonderful feeling to not have to worry about repossessions anymore. Also, I'm finally able to stash back a sizable sum per month to help me to further weather out the future storms on our economy.
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Mon Aug-22-11 10:19 PM
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42. 2 & 1/2 years is not near enough time to recover from the bushing we got |
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Mon Aug-22-11 10:27 PM
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43. worse. then I was working. Now I am not. |
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55 and unemployed...overqualified...fixed income for the first time in our lives. Not fun.
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Mon Aug-22-11 10:44 PM
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45. employer put me on the path to Canadian permanent residency |
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gotta be pretty grateful for that.
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Mon Aug-22-11 10:50 PM
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47. Do you notice a big difference in Canada? |
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I'd imagine that you would, but can you tell us a little about it?
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Mon Aug-22-11 11:05 PM
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48. Other than prosperity, not really. |
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Edited on Mon Aug-22-11 11:06 PM by Sen. Walter Sobchak
The 49th parallel is a geographic technicality, I find the culture of Alberta and BC more familiar to me than the culture of the US east coast. I look at it as a bomb shelter, but having worked in Canada off and on week to week since 2006 I might as well get something out of it more than a tax headache.
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Mon Aug-22-11 11:16 PM
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50. I get the sensse that Canadians feel more economically secure |
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compared to Americans these days. Any thoughts?
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Mon Aug-22-11 10:50 PM
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46. Income is roughly the same but my feelings about the economy have changed deeply. |
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Edited on Mon Aug-22-11 10:53 PM by pa28
We now see the results of a three decade policy agenda to re-distribute wealth upwards. I'm sorry to say that up until 2005 I was going along thinking everything would wash out, the theories were valid and we were moving into a "new economy". Well, the financial crisis ripped the veil off that idea didn't it?
The wolves are lurking around the campfire now and if you think someone in the government is going to protect you from the predators who are after pensions, Social Security and your personal assets you are fooling yourself. This is the kind of thing I never lost sleep over five years ago.
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Mon Aug-22-11 11:14 PM
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I was laid off two and a half years ago, and though I've had some short-term things here and there, I haven't had a steady job since then. This year, I've hardly had any short-term things. I'm forgetting the software skills I used to have and wondering what kind of job I can even get. (I'm in my fifties.) And I've got a lot less in my savings account, which was not meant to be used for living expenses, than I had two and a half years ago. At this rate, not sure how much longer the savings will last.
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Mon Aug-22-11 11:18 PM
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What kind of software work are you looking for?
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Mon Aug-22-11 11:44 PM
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54. I'm not looking for software work. |
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I'm just talking about the software I'd have to use in administrative (and most other) jobs. I haven't used them in so long that I'm lucky if I remember any of the software listed on my resume. Word, I know, and I think I remember some of Excel, but not a shitload of it. I don't think I remember how to use any of the others because I didn't use each one for that long and it's been a long time. These days, anyone that hires you expects you to already know absolutely everything you might ever have to use on the job; so many people are out of work, that they know they can find somebody who knows it all.
I got a job last year and they fired me after about 4-5 weeks because I couldn't step in and do it all immediately. One of the problems was that I didn't know Microsoft Publisher, which I had never used before. They won't train you and give you time to learn something anymore. You have to get up to speed and be totally productive within a week or two, and now that I'm older, I don't pick things up as fast as I used to. Doesn't make me real confident for interviews, not that I've had any for months. I now always feel that if I'm not perfect, which of course I'm not, I'm going to get fired quickly from any job that I might get. Sucks.
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Mon Aug-22-11 11:19 PM
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52. About the same, but I'm now under SSI |
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Tue Aug-23-11 12:04 AM
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56. Kinda wish I had gone into banking... |
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...good money - and easy money - pouring into that from what I read.
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Tue Aug-23-11 12:13 AM
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57. Two years ago was rough - fixed expenses and income about equal |
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so every month was finishing out plus or minus $15 bucks or so, and I didn't have much more than that in the bank.
Now is better - I've mitigated some of the fixed expenses (I'd already quit smoking and drinking, then started bicycling to work) and I make a little more on the job, and I've been frugal enough that there is a little cushion in the bank account. Things are comfortable, and life is better and easier.
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I still have a roof over my head though. :)
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Tue Aug-23-11 12:29 AM
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No, and I hear that sentiment from many, many people.
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Tue Aug-23-11 12:29 AM
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Now have no job. Awesome!
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