Mr President you stopped looking reasonable 6 months ago

[Fresh_Start]

now you just look weak

[Magister Ludi]

1. constructive criticism or pure vitriol? this is progressive???

[Fresh_Start]

3. not facing the truth....is that progressive?

these is plenty of evidence that Americans want a leader who means something and stands for something.
They would rather vote for someone determined than someone reasonable.
You only need look at the last 30 years of voting history to see that.

[Magister Ludi]

7. How dare Obama not get into a protracted battle he can't win to prove a point?

How dare he?

[Fresh_Start]

8. no one asked for a protracted battle

I wanted him to talk to his constituents and answer our question
Truth of the matter is the sooner the better.
My first choice would have been on Labor Day.

[Magister Ludi]

11. He will speak a day later. That is not good enough for you?

[Fresh_Start]

15. I'll watch him but many other people won't

and since I don't need convincing its preaching to the choir which doesn't count for much.
I voted for reasonable people instead of obstinate people but I saw AMericans vote into office the other person.
Obama's lost his mojo and its not coming back so its time he started learning some skills.

[Magister Ludi]

16. He will speak while millions wait in their living rooms for a football game

That is a guaranteed audience.

[former9thward]

30. If you think people wanting to see a football game are going to watch

the President that is a very big assumption. They will not.

[Donnachaidh]

17. FTW. n/t

[JNinWB]

26. Looks weak to you.

To many, Obama is a pragmatic rationalist, not an ideologue.

[truedelphi]

2. Six months ago?

BP happened over a year ago, and he certainly didn't perform well on that. He let a foreign-owned Oil Company take charge of an operation that they screwed up. He ignored liberal reporters who took the time to go down to the Gulf and show everyone in America what a farce the clean up operations were.

He let the EPA, with his appointments in charge, approve a chemical called Corexit. Even though it was widely known throughout the industry that Corexit was not anywhere as good at removing oil from the water as a dozen other products were. And it was known throughout the industry to be dangerous to the health of marine life and humans.

His EPA studied Corexit for ONE WEEK, and then said it was safe. (You can take the time to view the vid in my sig line as to how appalling this EPA review of the chemical was.)

Now lo and behold, and we have a drought that is plaguing the same areas of the Southeast where the Corexit was sprayed. We have valuable Louisiana and Mississippi marshlands coated with oil, where normally many sea food varieties of life incubate. The damage is so extensive that the 40 percent of the nations fisheries will probably not be able to harvest fish that are healthy for anytime over the next decades.

And it's not like Obama has learned from this, he sees coal as a "Clean energy," Apparently he has no opinion about fracking for natural gas, and he approves of the tar sands of Canada.

That's his environmental record. And you certainly cannot offset it with his economic record, because that is even worse. Nine trillions to nineteen trillions (or more) swiped from our economy for the benefit of the Biggest BAnking Firms, while Paulson/Bernan cke/Geithner played favorites for their friends.

But those of us who understood early on what his approval of Paulson meant, and worse still, his appointing Tim Geithner to Treasury, got a very clear picture of the fact that these men are not working for Obama, he is in fact working for them and their friends.

[Fresh_Start]

4. I agree that it was longer than 6 months or shorter than 6 months

depending on an individuals perspective. As the strident left, it was longer ago.
For many people however it was the debt ceiling fiasco which brought it home.

[truedelphi]

9. I don't really view the Democrats who voted for Obama from the bayous

Of Louisiana and Mississippi as being strident left. But after the malfeasance of this Adminsitration, in letting BP systematically destroy the Gulf, they may be stridently left now.

I personally had problems with Obama all along. I had close acquaintances far wiser than me cluing me in to who Geitthner was. Who Bernanke was. But I kept telling myself, "At least if we have another Katrina style event, he will handle it very well."

I see BP oil spill as that Katrina style event. And he did nothing about it that makes sense. Don't believe me - believe the people that Spike Lee filmed for his documentary on the situation "If God is Willing and Da Creek Don't Rise."

[Fresh_Start]

10. I'm not in the gulf so the effectiveness/ineffectiveness

is less obvious to me especially since we have government agencies saying that the spill damage was far less than expected and things have been restored faster than expected...now I'm the suspicious sort and that seemed awfully convenient but I didn't know for a fact anything else.

Like you, I was a reluctant Obama voter because I didn't see anything under the rhetoric.
But to give him and Nancy credit, there was some positive movement in the first half of his term.

[truedelphi]

21. If you get a chance to watch Spike Lee's film,

You'll see that we are being lied to.

The Corexit was used primarily so that the gunky oil would be separated into microscopic elements. That way it sinks to the bottom of the Gulf, where the bottom feeders like shrimp eat it. Then the larger fish eat that. And then the bigger fish eat that.

So both the oil and the Corexit is in the food chain and will be there for a long time.

With the oil not being on the water's surface, than BP can go out and take films of the oil free surface of the Gulf waters and say "Look-ee here, everything's okay now."

And our government believes them. Or pretends to.

But those who are being affected by the death of the Gulf are pretty upset. This is where 40% of all the marine life in the USA that is used to feed us seafood lovers comes from.

Like Brad Pitt says, "I never believed in the death penalty, but after seeing what has come down on top of people, I am willing to think about it." (Not that anyone at BP will even get prison time, of course.

[Octafish]

5. Thank you, truedelphi. Very well said.

Still hoping for change.

[NCarolinawoman]

13. Those horrid details regarding the Gulf oil spill...

I think I have tried to push them from my mind for the sake of my own sanity. It is so tragic that there is no going back for a re-do. Environmental matters seem to be of no real interest to Obama. There is just no passion there, and certainly no wisdom. :-(

He still could fire Geithner, who never seems to have given him even an ounce of good advice.

[aquart]

19. Fire him? For what he did?

I will always favor hanging Geithner.

[truedelphi]

23. He cannot fire Geithner.

Geithner was part of the package deal that he made with The Powers that Be, sometime during Fall of 2008.

Geithner does not work for Obama - Obama works for Geithner. He also works for all of Geithner's other buddies at Big Finance, Big Military, Big Oil, Big Insurance, Big Pharma and Big Pesticide.

[FiveGoodMen]

28. Yup!

Sadly, that's how it is.

[Raine]

22. THANKS for this info about Corexit

it is certainly something you don't hear the media covering.

[Ter]

6. More like 7 years ago

n/t

[theophilus]

12. Weak as water. Weak as water. n/t

[Fresh_Start]

14. we'll have to revise that phrase

turns out water in its many forms is not very weak.

[slay]

18. He looks weak because he IS weak

he has no idea how - or no ability - to stand up to republicans,
or corporations,
or the big banks,
or wall street,
or the military industrial complex,
etc.. ugh.

[aquart]

20. My mom calls him Spaghetti. No spine, no strength.

[Broderick]

24. Someone has a thread on why the the R's sabotage Obama

I wonder why Democrats sabotage him.

[JNinWB]

27. So he will be defeated by a TeaPublican.

Next question

[spanone]

25. bwahahahahahaa

[Shagbark Hickory]

29. He stopped looking weak 6 months ago...

Now he just looks like a republican.