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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:39 PM
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Guilty until proven innocent....
That is what the new voter registration are all about...

That is what drug testing for welfare benefits is all about...

Plain and simple.

When did this become acceptable and why aren't more people screaming about it.

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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:42 PM
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1. Drug testing as a requirement for government aid is perfectly reasonable
As long as it's applied across the board, including such payouts as:

Congressional salaries
Congressional benefits
Congressional pensions

etc.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:44 PM
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4. People getting Social security, medicare, medicaid, attending public schools, using
public roads, anyone who needs help from a firefighter, anyone who uses a public library, etc etc etc
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:46 PM
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5. Student loans, FDIC, tax credits of any kind, farm subsidies of any kind (direct or indirect)
Not to mention everything that's transported via public road or using fuel produced in any way by government subsidies, etc.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 08:46 AM
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8. Absolutely. If they can make military personnel do it for the honor of defending the nation,
they can insist that those who make laws for the nation be equally "pure" and free from banned substances.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:42 PM
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2. That's it.
I think it's only acceptable to the Republicans and others like them...

It's been a gradual slide away from justice...

People aren't screaming about it because most folks are struggling just to stay afloat.

Screaming about injustice is something they just don't have the time or energy for...

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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:50 PM
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6. Yep. They've got us by the short hairs and they know it.
The people are complacent because they are struggling to keep their heads above water so we are vulnerable to anything they want to do. What a shame. But I can't really blame anybody except Congress for taking advantage when they caused the problem in the first place - ALL of them.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:43 PM
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3. Agreed. nt.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 10:28 PM
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7. I'd rather just drug test all Republicans only.
And then if they complain, use their own logic on them: Well, if you haven't done any drugs, you've got nothing to worry about, right?
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 09:30 AM
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9. Well what about...
background checks as a condition of employment?

Basically one has to prove he's not guilty of having committed a crime before being hired.

Which isn't to say that it should involve voter registration, which isn't just a right, it's a responsibility.


I have no problem with my taxes going to support people who really need the money. I do NOT want to be enabling someone's illegal drug habits. And I don't like liars. If a person says he needs money or else he'll starve or be homeless, and he uses that money for drugs, then he's lying. To me, that's just as bad as someone asking me for a few bucks for food but then buying booze with it. Or giving money to a charity, and finding out the charity was a scam.

There are lots of situations in life where you're presumed to be guilty and have to prove you're not.

Like I pointed out in the first paragraph...some jobs require an extensive background check. I don't see people complaining about how unfair it is to be presumed guilty and having to prove one's innocence before being hired.

:shrug:



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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 09:55 AM
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10. It is also what
gun registration is all about.
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