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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:28 AM
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I'm trying to imagine Speaker of House McCormick telling LBJ to schedule his speech on another day
Yes, I realize that the Speaker schedules when events in the house take place, but both houses are in session on the 7th and unemployment is a national problem that should be priority #1. The fact that he overrules Obama's request for Wednesday night and instead schedules Thursday just speaks volumes to me about how the Republican congress has treated Obama and how Obama continues to take it time after time with no complaint.

Oh well...at least the GOP debate at the Reagan Library won't have to be postponed!!
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:29 AM
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1. LBJ was a mean nasty WHITE man
and that is all the difference.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:30 AM
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2. who did more for poverty and civil rights than any other president in our time.
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catbyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:34 AM
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3. But he was still WHITE
and that makes all the difference to these GOTP bastards.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:35 AM
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4. Yes, that is true--a lot of what the GOP is doing is because Obama is a black man
but Obama needs to stand up to them once in a while.
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newfie11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:09 AM
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16. damn right!
People seem to forget that.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:46 AM
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30. I agree and it showed the white south for the
prejudiced bigots they were and are. Of course they hated having their true colors show, fled the party and are now all pukes who have no shame. Racism is institutional in this country. And the south is only a few generations from actual slavery. It is probably great great grandparents who were slaves during the civil war.

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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:37 AM
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27. No it's not, and as long as people keep clinging to this myth that this is the SOLE
reason for such treatment then Obama will continue being a spineless jellyfish.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:42 AM
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29. +100
n/t
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 04:58 PM
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49. Thanks...nt
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:52 AM
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31. Well, joeybee12, you try being black for a day
Edited on Thu Sep-01-11 09:53 AM by WhiteTara
I somehow have a feeling you would be lynched within 24 hours. The world is not black and white. The subtle shades of gray filter all around. Be his spine if you will. Stand up to the bully whites. Call Boner and tell him what an ass he is. You can do it! Go! Vent that anger and while you're at it call Can't/won'ter and tell him what an ass he is! Please. They just think I'm a crazy old white lady because I call so much. We need your voice. Big booming white man voice.
Here's the number
Phone: (202) 225-0600
Fax: (202) 225-5117

Let me know what you said, okay? :patriot:
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 04:57 PM
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47. Give it a rest, sweetheart....
Were you alive/coherent during Clinton's presidency? You said the reason is SOLELY because he's black, and that dog won't hunt, sweetie-pie, a total show of ignorance or perpspective.

Keep screaming it's ONLY racism, and while racism is partly to blame, saying it's the ONLY thing is a lame, lame argument and world viewpoint. The real problem is Obama has absolutely no spine and they push him around BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY CAN.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:27 PM
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51. Your condensation tells alot
about you and it says you are a bigot and can't even see it.
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itsallhappening Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 08:10 AM
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52. You win! Calling someone a bigot means an automatic win.
Congrats!
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 02:49 PM
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39. You're absolutely right. This is just another in a string of excuses
put forth in order to avoid having to confront the truth - that Obama has no backbone and no wish or talent for confrontation. "It's 16 dimensional chess"; "He's playing rope-a-dope"; "He's just above this small stuff", etc. etc. etc. The unfortunate reality is that it's not because he's black, or any of the other things. It's because he is the Invertebrate-in-Chief.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 04:58 PM
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48. He'd lose a battle of wills with a jellyfish...nt
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itsallhappening Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 02:45 PM
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38. Yeah, other than that, they're both equally effective negotiators.
:eyes:

You're fooling yourself to make an excuse for Obama.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:38 AM
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5. LBJ had 24 years
in the House and Senate and, during that time, cultivated vital friendships and alliances. Obama had only 2 years in the Senate and, as such, did not have time to cultivate those same types of alliances. Translation: He has NO power in either House which is one of the reasons he's being B***-slapped so badly. The Party Bosses saw Obama's lack of experience as a GOOD thing because there was very little record to scrutinize, unlike Hillary Clinton. But, as we've seen, such short-sighted policies failed to foresee his weakness with the Legislative Branches AND the geniuses within the Democratic Party never foresaw the results of the 2010 election which has made the situation 1,000 times worse. And these geniuses are the people currently in charge of the Democratic Party.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:15 AM
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21. This is true. n/t
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:35 AM
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26. yup..lbj knew where the bodies were buried
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 02:33 PM
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35. since he put most of them there!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 02:52 PM
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41. And he held the strings to a LOT of wallets.
He was brilliant in that way.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:59 AM
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32. Very good analysis.
I agree about this and short sighted vision. Pukes have always taken the long view. The Democratic Party is filled with activists who have not stomach for procedure. They want action and although they may be smarter than conservatives, they focus on this election cycle and long term strategy. And the geniuses did foresee 2010 and said, ah, that will be a good thing. Sort of like Nadir saying that we need to crash to show everyone how bad they are and him fucking 2000.
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Lurks Often Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:42 AM
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6. LBJ was a FAR more experienced politician
who after 20+ years in the House knew exactly which buttons to push, how everything worked and the weaknesses and strengths of virtually all the members of the House and probably a lot of the Senators as well. In the 20th Century, probably only FDR was a better politician at working the system.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:43 AM
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7. unfortunately the house HAS that right but this is the first time in HISTORY they used it
there has never been a prick as big as boehner in the speakers position
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:54 AM
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8. Lets face it, I remember LBJ and Obama is no LBJ. We hired a
man for president that had no private sector experience and no political experience. What did we expect? That's why I never understood the Obama mania from the get go. But in the end that's the choice we had like it or not.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:57 AM
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9. Don't tell me you're buying into the Republican talking point narrative that
one has to have "private industry experience" before one is qualified to be president. Really? Are you serious?
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:00 AM
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11. You should have some experience in something n/t
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:08 AM
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15. What do you mean? If you're referring to the president, 11 plus years
in the Illinois State legislture and two years in the U.S Senate means nothing?

He has more experience that Lincoln. More experience than Michele Bachmann, and more experience than Sarah Palin.

So, you're falling for the ReTHUG fallacy that he has no experience?
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:13 AM
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19. I don't know of anyone in the Ohio state legislature that
would qualify for president. He spent those two years in the US Senate campaigning for president. It has become painfully obvious that he doesn't know how to deal with the Congress and they show him no repect.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:17 AM
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24. 11 years in the STATE legislature
and only 2 years in the Senate does not 24 years in the House AND the Senate make. Do you really, honestly, think progressives sit here and read Republican talking points and duplicate them on DU? Really? Because if you do I think it would benefit you to take a few steps back and re-consider and perhaps question yourself as to whether this POV has any basis in reality or is just an expedient excuse to support the D president, regardless of policies and actions.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:03 AM
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12. I remember him too
And while he got some amazing social programs passed, LBJ was also a vindictive bully. Obama is not.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:08 AM
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14. I wanted a president that went to Washington and got something
done I don't care if he is a vindictive bully, nice guys finish last in Washington. Was it Truman that said, "If you want a friend in Washington get a dog".
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:13 AM
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18. He's gotten an amazing amount done
...considering the obstructionist republicans - who, amazingly, seem to escape your ire.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:15 AM
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20. Like a ill conceived health care plan that not even one
Edited on Thu Sep-01-11 09:17 AM by doc03
Democrat will claim credit for today.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:17 AM
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23. I am a Democrat
And for the first time in my poverty-stricken life, I can get Medicaid. Maybe you're dissatisfied but my life has been saved.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:32 AM
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25. Only a vindictive bully can stand up to a whole Congress full of vindictive bullies
Self Defense 101
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:38 AM
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28. That may well be, but
We also had a vindictive bully that ran this country into the ground. Our current Congress full of vindictive bullies have an approval rating of 17%. Despite the horse-race fever projected from the media, the American people are pretty damned tired of the GOP and their petty bovine fecal matter.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 02:30 PM
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34. But because Congress is full of vindictive bullies, compromising with them
is like putting a "kick me" sign on one's butt.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 02:39 PM
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36. You really want Obama doing this?
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 02:50 PM
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40. Actually, HELL YES!
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 03:04 PM
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42. Then why did you vote for Obama?
That's not how he works and you should have known that from the beginning.

I voted for him because he wasn't a vindictive bully.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 04:20 PM
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43. To keep Sarah Palin out of the vice-presidency
That was the only reason. I suspected that Obama was an empty suit from the beginning, but he wasn't a Republican. (Note: I didn't like Hillary Clinton, either, because I KNEW she was a corporatist.)
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 04:24 PM
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44. Well, I was asking that of someone else
But thank you for your honesty.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:02 AM
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33. Actually elected, not hired. This is a country, not
a company. Yes, I knew that Hillary would have been a far better president. She's tough as nails and between her and Nancy Pelosi, we would have been an altogether country today. But hindsight is so bright and the present is where we have to live. Fight harder and find him some allies.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:00 AM
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10. I can't see it happening.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:04 AM
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13. There were penalties for crossing LBJ. n/t
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:09 AM
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17. I guarantee it would never have happened.
LBJ had a spine.

For all of his bad points, he damned sure knew how to play the game, and he was a master at it.

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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:17 AM
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22. LBJ would never be so rude as to announce something without
it being settled in advance. Obama once again shows he is living on a different planet.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 04:26 PM
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45. Not to defend Obama's caving, again, but Boner had agreed to Sept. 7 and AFTER Obama announced it,
Boner conveniently changed his mind.
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itsallhappening Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 02:41 PM
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37. Unemployment should have been priority #1 long before Sept. 7th.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 04:52 PM
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46. Debates are more important than outlining a plan regarding Job recovery
Shut up they have a campaign to run, money to raise.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 05:16 PM
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50. Remember that picture of LBJ lifting Him (the beagle) up by the ears?
Boner would suffer the same fate, except it wouldn't be his EARS Johnson was picking him up by...

The point is moot, though. Nobody would DARE do that to LBJ. Yes, he could be a petty, vindictive, foulmouthed, no-class sumbitch, but he was OUR petty, vindictive, foulmouthed, no-class sumbitch!
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