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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:21 AM
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Why Are The Repugs So Intent On Sabotaging Obama?......
Sounds like a naive question I guess - but - why have the Repugs gone to such lengths - like putting our credit rating in jeopardy to sink Obama? Why do they hate him so much? Is it a racial thing? Or is it that they are worried that he will come through on his campaign promises and right the wrong in this country? Are they that worried that he will create jobs and lower unemployment? Are they that worried that he will help the middle class? Are they that worried that he will stop the banksters and corporations from fleecing us?

Is Obama so much of a threat that they will stop at nothing to make him a one term President? Why are they so filled with hate against this man? Why are they trying to turn the whole country against him? Is this just for power? Is this greed? Is this hate?

And how come the American People are falling for it? I just don't get it. Are we that stupid? Do we want another 8 years like we had with BushCo?
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:23 AM
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1. They would be attacking any democratic president
Obama is probably more so because 1) he hasn't faced them down and 2) he's not white
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:23 AM
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2. because he's a democrat
and he's black.


He has so thoroughly kicked their asses on so many occasion, they keep come back for more. They are idiots.
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:23 AM
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3. They hate all of us.
If I were President - a white, male, Christian moderate from a Southern state, they would do me the same way. Look at how they treated Bill Clinton. He was accused of murder. So was Hillary.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 01:09 PM
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42. And there you have it. They never expected to have to deal with another Democratic President
and they are really pissed about it.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:23 AM
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4. You weren't around for the Clinton impeachment?
Yes, it is about power. He has it. They want it.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:47 AM
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19. Repigs behaved like scalp hunters and tied the nation in knots for 8yrs, then they were punished
for their recklessness by the voters with the election of George W. Bush. Even though the nation disapproved of their attempts to lynch Bill Clinton. Even though one Repig after another was revealed to be a hypocrite skirt chaser.

They know they have gotten away with it before. Experience is the best teacher they say. And one day I hope they get their little piggy trotters singed, right to the shoulder. They need a lesson that lasts forever.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:24 AM
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5. I have a theory that Democratic Presidents will all be sabotaged.
Edited on Thu Sep-01-11 10:25 AM by TwilightGardener
They started with Bill Clinton--but he managed to leave office with a good economy, and they will never again allow the Democratic party be associated with "good times" and economic success--because that would fly in the face of their doctrine. Obama's race just makes it a little easier for them to diminish him, but they'd do this to Hillary or Kerry or whomever else might have been a Dem President in the last 10 years.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:29 AM
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9. But Why Are The American People Falling For This?.......
With all the crap that the Repugs have pulled over the last two years and I mean blatant lies, attacks on the middle class, dirty tricks, the whole Wisconsin battles with the Gov. - aren't we Americans smart enough to see through all this? I mean some of us are - but given the recent polls - it looks like many are being sucked into this insanity.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:32 AM
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12. I don't think Americans care much about politics or which party is in power
Edited on Thu Sep-01-11 10:33 AM by TwilightGardener
until they're negatively affected--they are not paying attention to whose fault it is that X or Y happens, or that helpful legislation can't get through Congress. The only goal is to make average dopey Americans think: "Hard times during Obama/Democratic administration. Will try Republican next time."
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:36 AM
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15. Also, I used to have a naive expectation that when a new party and President took power,
Edited on Thu Sep-01-11 10:37 AM by TwilightGardener
they got to do it THEIR way for their turn in office, and when the other party takes power, they get to do it THEIR way for their turn. I think most people still believe that--they actually think Obama's "getting his turn" and getting his way, and it's not working. They don't realize that he hasn't been able to do much at all since January.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:39 AM
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17. I think you hit the nail square on the head!!! n/t
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bainz Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:35 AM
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14. "But Why Are The American People Falling For This?"
Edited on Thu Sep-01-11 10:36 AM by bainz
My guess is because they were convinced that the previous president was 100% responsible for everything that went wrong. So this go 'round, they believe the same.

When * screwed things up, he was the decider, when things go wrong now, everyone needs a civics lesson. Not easy to have it both ways.

Edit: what TwilightGardener said.

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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:26 AM
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6. They cannot stand losing power or not being in power. They will attack everyone who is not them.
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jorno67 Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:27 AM
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7. 2 reasons
1 - he's a democrat President - remember what they did to Bill Clinton?
2 - Obama is black. The core of the rethugs belief is the good old boy country club network. It's ok to have blacks on your sports team but not in the WHITE house.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:56 AM
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21. Those were my reasons too.
For those who don't remember... http://www.thehuntingofthepresident.com/


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Harry Thomason and Nickolas Perry's incendiary documentary, based on the best-selling
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systematically destroy the political legacy of the Clintons.

Using previously unreleased materials, interviews, and shocking revelations from both
sides of the beltway, this probing work focuses on the smear campaign against Clinton
from his gubernatorial days in Arkansas leading up to and including his impeachment
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Less of an advocacy film and more of an alarming treatise on the political power of the
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from the tops of their soapboxes.

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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:18 AM
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27. Here's a good summary of it, the trailer.
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jorno67 Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:43 AM
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34. I haven't seen that -where can I get the full movie?
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:25 PM
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37. Looks like Netflix and Amazon from what I could find ...
Edited on Thu Sep-01-11 12:27 PM by RKP5637
https://www.netflix.com/Movie/The-Hunting-of-the-President/70000106

And also Amazon.com online rentals for $2.99 for 7 days.





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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:27 AM
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8. It's what they do
Obama's mistake was thinking he'd be treated any better than Clinton. Someday, we'll get to see them do it again if we're still breathing and another Dem is in the WH. Maybe he/she will handle it better.
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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:32 AM
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10. It took 8 yrs. for shrubby to
truly fuck stuff up. I guess some expected the extensive repairs that are needed to happen over night.


Yes, they do hate him that much. Some of which could be racially inspired. They are going to make damn sure that the President doesn't have an easy time of it. Never ending political wrangling.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:32 AM
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11. Republicans are The Party of Hatred. They hate anything that is not
Edited on Thu Sep-01-11 10:36 AM by RKP5637
bringing down America for the majority of the citizens. It is a sickness fueled by greed, authoritarianism, bigotry, bullying, racism, ignorance, sheer stupidity and for many the desire for a theocracy.

And if you aren't one of them they literally hate you, seriously. Hence, there is no way they are going to like Obama or any president that is not their own. They are ripping this country apart and the sad part of it is some Americans are so proud of their own ignorance they play right into the republican propaganda machine.

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rury Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:34 AM
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13. They hate him because he's black
They hate all Democrats but they hate black ones more than white ones.
End of story.
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KarenS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:36 AM
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16. Along with the other reasons listed, I have a
strong belief that both Clinton and Obama were and are attacked for being born to families not of the upper or ruling class ~ they both rose against all odds to the level of President and that threatens the fragile egos of the entitled 1%
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:41 AM
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18. In a word: Boredom.
It gets boring counting all that corporate, oil soaked, mountain top clearing, kickback cash. So they need something to occupy their time.



:sarcasm:
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:55 AM
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20. He outflanks them on the right, undercutting their support from...

the deep pocket guys.

Tactically their only option is going further right and foaming at the mouth or outflanking him on the left which they ain't gonna do cause the TP's would go nuts.
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:58 AM
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22. It's the economy, S****d.
If it tanks, so does Obama. Than they can really go for broke.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:59 AM
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23. Because they can.
or to paraphrase Chet (Bill Paxton) from "Weird Science, "because they get off on it".
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:01 AM
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24. It is all wrapped up in:: Obama is to be a one term President.
Because the GOP have had a strategy of making this
a RW--they would say Conservative Country with
Republicans holding power for about fifty years,
any one or anything that gets in their way is
a target for destruction. If another Democrat
were President, they would have him/her under
the same attacks.

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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:14 AM
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25. It's all they got. They are anti anything thats good for hardworking Americans. n/t
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kiranon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:23 AM
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28. Agree. Republican party is intellectually and morally bankrupt and
can only oppose everything Democrats do because they have nothing to offer in its place.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:14 AM
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26. Authoritarians obsessed with "who's the boss."
They wouldn't want a minority person to show them up. It might cause people to question their God-given destiny as the chosen few who were born to lead (and be rich and powerful and famous). :crazy:
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:23 AM
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29. Because it's all about competition and perception of strength...not what's right for the country
Edited on Thu Sep-01-11 11:26 AM by Sheepshank
Obama beat them in a contest of popularity, and that is just not good for their shallow egos OR the perception of being the testosterone, bully, hunter vs gatherer, mighty winner of everything. The constant 'man-up' meme sort of did it for me. The GOP hates to lose or seem weak in any way. The only way they can look strong is to demolish anything that is not GOP. Anything not GOP must be shown to be weaker, inept and a loser.

Everything is couched in terms of winning, pwning the other, and it puts their whole political outlook in the arena of "we have to look like winners, everything else be damned".

It's my gut reaction to much of what goes on.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:24 AM
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30. Cause Rush told them he wanted him ( Obama) to fail......
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:29 AM
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31. Simple. he is not a republican.That is what they do. n/t
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:29 AM
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32. Because he is not a fighter and they perceive this as their

best chance to put a final nail in LIberalism's coffin. With each cave in on Obama's part the republicans had doubled down of their efforts to
remake society in their own hateful, selfish, overbearing image.

Politicians are really gladiators in suits and they see him as the 98lb weakling cowering in the corner. At a time when our country needs a
powerful, fearless leade like FDR , we have a man who insists his presidency will be saved by his offerings of partisanship to a party that
seeks only his destruction.

This is such a scary time in our country. The idea of another right wing, evangelical, end time freak with a low IQ being the president of the US
is like a living nightmare.


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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:31 AM
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33. He is
a Democrat

and he is black.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:47 AM
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35. He's not just a DEMOCRAT, and democrats cannot, under any circumstances,
hold the Presidency... but it gets worst... HE IS BLACK. In private they are probably using the UPPITY N word as well.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:51 AM
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36. And because they know that Democrats *themselves* will blame him, too, before
they'd blame Republicans.
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JNinWB Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:52 PM
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39. Republicans don't believe in Government, or governing.

Working to make Obama a one-term president--a failure--is the only job they have.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 02:27 PM
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46. Sometimes I often think the country should just be divided, the divisions just
Edited on Thu Sep-01-11 02:28 PM by RKP5637
seem too great anymore. Also, brain studies now pretty much suggest RW conservatives are pretty much hardwired to think the way they do, also applies to religious fanatics, etc. The studies are out on the net if you search. I think the differences are irreconcilable.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:56 PM
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40. Obama's victory stole their dream of a Reichwing takeover
because it proved the left had clout.


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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 01:07 PM
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41. I understand why they do it... I don't understand why WE do it.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 02:04 PM
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43. When republicans are in power they borrow and spend. They bankrupt
the country, start unnecessary wars, etc etc. Just before the country falls completely apart, the voters wise up and vote in democrats to clean up the mess.

This is the point (when republicans aren't screwing animals or 18 yr old male pages) they'll sit back on their big fat hemmeroid asses and point the shit stained fingers at the democrats for doing what's necessary to keep the country running.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 02:22 PM
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44. Exactly! And many voters are too propagandized and hence too
ignorant to get WTF is going on. It happens over and over again. I wish all Americans would wake up to WTF is going on, but my hopes are dimming. I've lived through too much of the bullshit to think it's going to improve. We'll see what 2012 brings, but if R's are back in I'd say this country is over the cliff for most Americans, and many will wonder WTF happened, yet again.

Sorry for my rant, but I see the same crap over and over again. Meanwhile, this country will be lucky if it even has third world status. Other countries are flying right pass the US into the 21st century, while we are working hard to get back to the dark ages.

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Zoigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 02:26 PM
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45. Because he's a Democrat and he's black among
other reasons...z
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 02:48 PM
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47. I have an idea for a simple mathematical proof ....
I will apologize up front, I have not tried to write one of these for about 30 years ... so please feel free to improve this.

The variables are ....

Democratic (D)

President (P).

African American (A).

Perceived Incorrect Religiosity (R)

Right wing Hate quotient (H).

Given these, we can predict H (right wing hate for Obama) this way ...

H = 100% if P is true, and anyone one of D or R or A is true.

Interestingly, H can move much higher than 100% if P is true and 2 or more of D, R, or A are true.

And then, the fact that for Obama, his A level is set at .5 ... creates an odd spike in H, which then drops slightly with an A of 75% or higher.

Additionally, an A factor of less then .5 creates no change in the H score.
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War Horse Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 03:06 PM
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48. Because in their view they are entitled to the Presidency?
As in, that's the way it's supposed to be/God meant it to be so? They can live with, say, a D majority in the House, but a D president? That's taking it too far.
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