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Thu Sep-01-11 06:44 PM
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Somebody Here Asked A Valuable Question... My Response... |
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Thu Sep-01-11 06:46 PM
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Teddy did what he could, along with a few others, but it has all been very downhill since our losses in 1968, I agree.
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Thu Sep-01-11 06:46 PM
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And we have never really recovered from that!:cry:
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Thu Sep-01-11 06:46 PM
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3. The good die and the psychopaths go on and on. n/t |
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Thu Sep-01-11 06:48 PM
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4. That was the answer that came to my mind as well... |
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Thu Sep-01-11 08:16 PM
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Thu Sep-01-11 07:01 PM
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5. It was never fashionable. There were no good old days.... |
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...and the belief that there once were such, from which we have fallen, is one of the most pernicious myths in politics.
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Thu Sep-01-11 07:03 PM
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6. Wrong. There once was president who declared war on poverty |
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just as there was a president who thought our elders should not die in the street.
Ignore the erosion at your own peril.
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Thu Sep-01-11 07:15 PM
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8. Belief in a suppositious golden age... |
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...means always playing defense, and always privileging old policies. It leads to paralysis. And in a country that fetishizes the new, it's political disaster. Republicans know that.
Societies move forward, or die. Standing still is lethal.
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Thu Sep-01-11 07:18 PM
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9. Well... That Explains The Obama Administration In A Nutshell... Good Luck With That... |
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Thu Sep-01-11 07:22 PM
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10. We know who else wanted to move his society forward.. |
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Yes, that's right.
That society certainly came out of the ashes like a phoenix but I'm not all that enthusiastic about having my grandkids go through the process.
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Thu Sep-01-11 07:30 PM
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Fri Sep-02-11 09:51 AM
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19. Conservative in the sense... |
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Edited on Fri Sep-02-11 10:14 AM by Davis_X_Machina
...of unthinkingly, reflexively resistant to change, yes.
The Left has been, throughout the developed world, in a thirty-year secular decline, regardless of the country. Who in the OECD is left of where they were in 1975-1980? Germany -- no. UK -- no. France -- no. Italy -- no. Canada -- no. The US -- no. Scandinavia -- no. (The Meidner plan doesn't get talked about much, does it?)
And the Left's response is, right across the OECD, nostalgia.
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Fri Sep-02-11 10:03 AM
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Thu Sep-01-11 08:21 PM
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14. You don't have to play defense when you know you are right |
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and believe in what you are fighting for. A leader who is passionate about what they believe in is rarely if ever on the defensive. But you do have to believe in what you are trying to achieve, you can't fake it. Such strong leaders have moved countries.
And caring for the poor is 'old'? I guess for some, most of the Republicans. But so long as there ARE poor, can you explain how the issue can be 'old'? If it were, that would mean we didn't have to worry about it anymore.
Oh, and I know Republicans don't worry about it. I was talking about Democrats.
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Thu Sep-01-11 08:25 PM
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15. And... If You Concentrate On Lifting Up The Poor And The Dispossessed... |
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It lifts up the middle-class and everybody else.
Win/Win
No more divide and conquer.
Sigh...
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:hi:
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Thu Sep-01-11 10:19 PM
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16. Still as far right as ever I see, you would fit well writing policy for PPI or third way |
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Thu Sep-01-11 10:27 PM
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17. yeah, the repugs are moving forward alright |
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forward to 1880 and the robber barons with the same deregulation and greed. How can you say such tripe? And Martin Luther King Jr was assassinated when he started going from civil rights to addressing poverty and labor rights.
Societies move forward? Damn, I thought they were taking us back. And it really looks like they're "standing" right now, because the sociopaths care more about their power than the american people. Can't move for jobs until we get the D out of the house. Oh, wait Little Boots had about zero job growth. But, hey his friends made it big with our money. they showed how much they cared about us, when they started a bogus war.
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Thu Sep-01-11 10:33 PM
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18. you know you were on another thread talking about "moving forward" |
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when it came to indicting Little Boots and his comrades for war crimes. When you don't take care of corruption, like BCCI and iran-contra, it comes back to bite you hard. Sometimes with the same players doing the same damn damage. So, don't tell me about going forward, because if we don't take care of those who are doing the damage-the corruption grows and the damage gets harder to rectify.
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Fri Sep-02-11 09:56 AM
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We should never forget history.
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Thu Sep-01-11 07:05 PM
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7. I Disagree...I Think That Was EXACTLY The Threat (Major Advocates For The Poor) That Was Snuffed Out |
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Thu Sep-01-11 08:17 PM
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13. what they could have done for our country.... |
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:cry: :cry: TPTB were NOT going to let that happen.
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Fri Sep-02-11 10:56 AM
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22. A lot of dreams were snatched that year |
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