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Eddie Haskell Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 04:08 PM
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USAma Bin Laden?
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists/usama-bin-laden

USAma to Osama

When did we change his name?
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 04:10 PM
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1. It's like Khaddafi/Ghaddafi/Qadafi etc
Transliterating Arabic to English is an inexact exercise.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 04:13 PM
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3. Exactly, extremely different character sets means you're putting down a pronunciation.
"Osama" became popular early on, but some places still use Usama.
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Recovered Repug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 04:49 PM
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12. While I understand some languages don't translate well,
it sure would help if everyone stuck with one spelling.
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 04:10 PM
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2. I've seen a number of different spellings
No clue which is really correct.
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Eddie Haskell Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 04:14 PM
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4. The FBI uses USAma
Edited on Fri Sep-02-11 04:16 PM by Eddie Haskell
I want a birth certificate. Was he born in the USA? Was his mother American?
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 04:15 PM
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5. when we realized you cant spell Usama without U-S-A
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Wait Wut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 04:15 PM
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6. Just use his nickname...
...Fish Food.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 04:16 PM
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7. We created him, shouldnt we get some credit?
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Eddie Haskell Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 04:17 PM
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8. Yea, I'm beginning to think the CIA named him.
:-)
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 04:42 PM
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11. ditto
.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 04:23 PM
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9. Tried to insert Arabic script here, didn't work.
Edited on Fri Sep-02-11 04:24 PM by jobycom
Arabic phonemes don't align perfectly with English, and the pronunciation or Arabic words can further change depending on the sound that precedes or follows it. For instance, the "bin" would be "ibn" if it followed a consonant. The word would be spelled the same in Arabic, but pronounced differently, so you have to choose whether to transliterate the written word or the sound.

So both Usama and Osama are wrong, and right. They are just approximations. Osama was common usage for a long time, but our government used Usama, and after 9-11 the media started using Usama. Now it's gone back to the more common usage. Or osage.
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Eddie Haskell Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 04:30 PM
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10. Interesting, no wonder we have so much trouble translating
their intercepted phone calls.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 05:06 PM
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13. A decision was
made in October of 2001 to use the incorrect "Osama."
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Eddie Haskell Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 07:58 PM
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14. That crossed my mind.
I wonder if Fox had anything to do with the change. They control such a huge part of the media anything is possible.
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