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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:02 PM
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LIBYA-We helped Ghaddafi stay in power as long as he was useful-For torture & PR. And the oil flowed
Edited on Sat Sep-03-11 03:05 PM by kpete
....We helped Ghaddafi stay in power as long as he was useful. For torture. And PR. And the oil flowed freely. It was only once the region started to destabilize that we discovered our "conscience." He had, after all, been running a tyrannical regime for decades.
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/tortured-alliance.html

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Documents found at the abandoned office of Libya’s former spymaster appear to provide new details of the close relations the Central Intelligence Agency shared with the Libyan intelligence service — most notably suggesting that the Americans sent terrorism suspects at least eight times for questioning in Libya despite that country’s reputation for torture.

Although it has been known that Western intelligence services began cooperating with Libya after it abandoned its program to build unconventional weapons in 2004, the files left behind as Tripoli fell to rebels show that the cooperation was much more extensive than generally known with both the C.I.A. and its British equivalent, MI-6.

Some documents indicate that the British agency was even willing to trace phone numbers for the Libyans, and another appears to be a proposed speech written by the Americans for Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi about renouncing unconventional weapons.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/03/world/africa/03libya.html

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CIA RENDERED REBEL COMMANDER TO LIBYA AT QADDAFI REQUEST | Apparent Central Intelligence Agency communiques to now-deposed Libyan dictator Col. Muammar Qaddafi obtained by the New York Times and Human Rights Watch (HRW) indicate that the CIA rendered Abdelhakim Belhadj to Libya at the request of Qaddafi’s intelligence agency in 2004. Belhadj, who has a militant extremist past but is now the rebel commander in charge of Tripoli, says he was tortured while in CIA and Libyan custody. Asked for Belhaj, an apparent CIA caseworker wrote the CIA was “committed to developing this relationship” with Libyan intelligence. Two days later, an officer wrote the CIA was “planning to take control of (Belhadj and his pregnant wife) in Bangkok and place them on our aircraft for a flight to your country.” The Times couldn’t verify the documents, which were found by journalists and HRW in a binder marked CIA at Qaddafi’s intelligence headquarters.


http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/09/03/311651/cia-qaddafi-rendition/
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:06 PM
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1. A pictorial montage would show all of them with all of us on the couch...
Edited on Sat Sep-03-11 03:06 PM by orpupilofnature57
of the Oval office, from Nixon on.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:07 PM
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2. K&R
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:08 PM
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3. Chimp did rapprochement.
All you need to know.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:11 PM
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4. How many decades has the CIA been running this country?
I think since the late 50's.....
whadda you think?
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:16 PM
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5. Wasn't OSS changed in the fifties to
CIA? I know it was OSS during WW2.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:33 PM
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8. Yep. The Dulles bros took over then.
John Foster Dulles:
1954.....
Along with his brother, Allen Dulles, the Director of CIA and a former member of the Board Of Directors of the United Fruit Company, based in Guatemala, Foster Dulles was pivotal in promoting and executing the CIA-led Operation PBSUCCESS that overthrew the democratically elected Guatemalan government of Jacobo Arbenz Guzmán.

Dulles was one of the pioneers of massive retaliation and brinkmanship. In an article written for Life Magazine Dulles defined his policy of brinkmanship: "The ability to get to the verge without getting into the war is the necessary art." His critics blamed him for damaging relations with Communist states and contributing to the Cold War.

Lots of good history well presented in Wiki, has not been scrubbed yet..

If you know who the Dulles guys were,
and Averall Harriman of the same period ( he employed Prescott Bush) and their relationship with Nazi Germany ( profitable) things begin to make sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Averill_Harriman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dulles

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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 04:42 PM
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9. The USA has had its finger in every foreign
pie we can think of for ages and ages. We may never know it all. The Dulles boys really got around.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:19 PM
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7. I know who was about to stop them from ruining the country and the cost..
Edited on Sat Sep-03-11 03:19 PM by orpupilofnature57
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:18 PM
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6. K & R
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