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Wed Jan-12-11 08:43 PM
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The "memorial" has become a pep rally |
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for Tucson and the University of Arizona. Please.:eyes:
on edit: The speakers are more concerned with promoting Tucson, U of A and Arizona.
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:44 PM
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1. It was never billed as a funeral. |
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:45 PM
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2. For a somber event, there's a lot of cheering. |
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:46 PM
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:54 PM
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30. Yeah, not a fan of that really. Wish people would show a bit more respect and decorum. |
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It's just the way I was brought up. 6 people are dead here.
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:01 PM
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50. What a bunch of pissy pants there are around here. |
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:32 PM
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:06 PM
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56. "It's just the way I was brought up." Me, too. I hear you. n/t |
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:46 PM
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3. Your concern is noted. |
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:46 PM
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Bwahahaha. Haven't used that response in a while. nt |
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:08 PM
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my concern is noted.:evilgrin:
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:32 PM
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66. I am not concerned with your concern. I merely noted it. |
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:46 PM
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5. It's just college kids making the cheers. Cut them some slack. nt |
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:34 PM
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69. No. They should be smart enough to know better. |
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:42 PM
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:46 PM
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6. Not Many Memorials Have 15,000 People... |
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To those who want to find something wrong here, they're going to find it. Totally missing the messages being said on stage. But then they weren't paying attention anyway.
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:50 PM
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13. and on a college campus while classes are still in session. n/t |
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:46 PM
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7. Sister and I just switched to DVR. Frankly these two Democrats are appalled....n/t |
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:51 PM
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18. sounds like a tent revival. |
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Came in from the laundry room w/ Napalitano quotin' scripture, then Holder evoking Jay-sis - little out of step for a Congressperson w/ Jewish heritage.
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:56 PM
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Congresswoman Giffords. It is just as much, if not ,more, a memorial for the dead, and it appears at least most of them were Christians.
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:57 PM
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40. I agree. This is just weird. |
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:46 PM
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8. Memorials are a celebration of life as much as they are of the lives that have been lost. |
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:50 PM
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15. same here..and it's disrupting Obama's speech too |
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It;s too bad that someone at the university did not tell the students that this was not a basketball game or pep rally & that they need not whoop & holler..
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:53 PM
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23. You've never been to an Irish wake, I'm guessing? |
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:28 PM
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64. My mother's family name is O'Shea |
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no wakes in this Irish family..just a High Mass..no cheering clapping
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:44 PM
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75. When my Irish mother died, the family spent a lot of time celebrating the life she led. |
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And, since she was a happy, loving, outgoing person, that celebration was full of happiness, love & hope. Sure we were saddened by her passing, it was more than made up for in the joy we felt in knowing her.
I can't remember Mom feeling tears, but I can't remember her without feel laughter, either.
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:54 PM
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28. Yes memorials are are a celebration |
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of life. I don't need a commercial for Tucson, U of A, or Arizona.
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:47 PM
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9. Judging by what I'm hearing, more like a revival meeting. |
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Holder and Obama both waxing religious.
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:47 PM
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10. I find the outburst as inappropriate. Maybe it's me. n/t |
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:56 PM
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36. You can tell The President was uncomfortable with it |
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:48 PM
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11. These children have not been taught the etiquette of memorial services |
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As was said above, cut them some slack.
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:48 PM
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12. Please slap me if I ever criticize people for grieving wrong. n/t |
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:52 PM
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:52 PM
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21. exactly. trauma and horror.... so they are doing it the way some want. nt |
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:54 PM
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26. Thank you for the most sensible post on this thread. (nt) |
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:55 PM
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Be sure it's hard enough to remove the stick from my ass when you do it, too.
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Wed Jan-12-11 11:04 PM
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76. Thank you. DU finds exciting ways to sink to new lows at just about every turn. |
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:50 PM
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14. I remember fans cheering Elton John at Princess Di's funeral |
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He acted pretty grossed out by it. I don't mind the celebratory applause for statements about unity and transcendance, but howling like it's the Duke basketball game that I'm turning to in 11 minutes? Bleech.
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:50 PM
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Do you think the families and dead would object to celebration of life??
I am quite thankful my mother's memorial was joyful, had singing, laughter, cheering, clapping and back-slapping.
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:51 PM
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:54 PM
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I hope I get a memorial like that when my time comes.
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:58 PM
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44. I should be so lucky... |
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and it would definitely bless my family and friends. ;)
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:56 PM
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34. I don't know about these particular families, but if someone had |
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laughed, cheered, clapped, or back-slapped at my dad's memorial, my mother would have been extremely offended. Not all people grieve the same way.
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:59 PM
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45. Well, that's too bad. |
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What are you going to do, stand there and scold them??
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:03 PM
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52. My mom was in a state of grief and shock. It's a year and a half |
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Edited on Wed Jan-12-11 09:03 PM by LibDemAlways
later and she's still consumed by grief. Yes, she would have reamed someone she thought was making light of the situation up and down through the tears. Sorry, but that's just how it is.
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:07 PM
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58. How are they making light of it? |
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But remember, this isn't your family member's memorial. If you don't want cheering don't have a ceremony in a college auditorium, stay in a cold dark church.
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:11 PM
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61. If this is ok with those families, fine. I wouldn't be |
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Edited on Wed Jan-12-11 09:15 PM by LibDemAlways
so quick to pass judgment on people you don't know. Who said anything about a cold dark church?
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:16 PM
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63. It seems to me that YOU are the one passing judgement. |
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But hey, this isn't about me or you--it's about the families and friends there in Tucson.
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:59 PM
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:51 PM
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17. they actually cheered when brewer said "and of course we lost christina green" |
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:53 PM
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24. They were cheering for her life, not her death. |
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And they were trying to support her family in whatever way they could.
I agree that it was awkward.
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:52 PM
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22. What Obama is doing now is truly healing. Finally, making it personal re all the victims. |
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He has created an appropriate tone now. This is why I am proud that he is our president.
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:54 PM
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25. You are now officially univited to my wake, where there better be |
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laughter, dancing, clapping, drinking, and lots of stories about all the shit I said and did while I was alive. I don't want tears, I don't want sorrow, I want those who knew me to say they were glad they knew me. Please don't come and spoil my party!
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:58 PM
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43. You missed the point. |
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At my wake, I want a keg of beer. What I don't want is a sales pitch about Tucson, U of A, or Arizona.
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:04 PM
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53. Oh, you can do that too at my memorial. I am a native of Arizona! |
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And one keg won't be enough at my wake. I don't feel I have the right to tell others they must grieve, or celebrate those they've lost. You clearly feel differently.
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:54 PM
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27. Maybe that's what they need. Catharsis. |
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They play music and dance at New Orleans funerals to celebrate the life that was lived.
They are applauding and celebrating who the honorees WERE as living people. I don't see a problem with that.
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:57 PM
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38. yes. this is what i was trying to think of. four days of the horror. saying no hate |
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diversity in a time of them against us. letting pres know he is welcome....
i can see it
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:55 PM
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32. It is NOT a funeral. They are honoring the victims. |
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:56 PM
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33. It's a celebration of life and remembrance |
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:56 PM
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35. Not since the President began speaking.... |
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He got the mood back to the right place.
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Too much political promotion.....
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:57 PM
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41. You do realize that among the vicitims there are survivors too, don't you? |
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:00 PM
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49. I know it's not a funeral. |
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I just don't need a commercial right now.
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:32 PM
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67. This wasn't about you. n/t |
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Wed Jan-12-11 08:58 PM
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42. been a long, dark week in tucson |
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:06 PM
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55. this is how i see it. may look imappropriate, but these people have been living in it. nt |
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:02 PM
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strongly! It opened with "Fanfare for the Common Man" this should be a fanfare for hope and spirit. The cheering is totally appropriate. Fanfare, celebration of life, praising of hero's. It is as it should be.
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:05 PM
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54. So I'm old fashioned, but I don't like all of the applauding and cheering at a memorial service. |
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As my grandmother would say, "It ain't fittin'".
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:12 PM
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62. Your grandmother had a lot of common sense. |
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Something that seems to be in short supply these days.
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:36 PM
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71. My grandma would have said the same thing. |
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She was the "lace curtain Irish" form of hypocrite.
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:09 PM
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60. Great speech in spite of the audience nt |
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:36 PM
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72. I agree. i think he gave a very good speech. nt |
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:40 PM
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73. Perhaps they should've hired the Blue Man Group, too |
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Maybe booked Gallagher to bust a few watermelons onstage
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