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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 11:42 AM
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Here We Go: US Futures Plunge As Milan, Dax Down 5%, Italian Fins Halted, EURUSD Sub 1.41 Gold >1900
Gold Reaches $1,900 Again - Supported by Risk of U.S. Recession, German Euro Risk and Wikileaks China Gold Cables

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/gold-reaches-1900-again-supported-risk-us-recession-german-euro-risk-and-wikileaks-china-gold-c


Spot for immediate delivery rose to $1,903.00/oz as the dollar and all currencies fell against gold in early European trading. Risk aversion has returned due to concerns about the US and global economy and Eurozone contagion.

The very poor employment figure in the United States has led to stock markets in Asia and Europe experiencing quite large falls. Also the exposure of the world’s largest banks to lawsuits which could cost billions is causing market jitters. Despite continuing denial, a recession in the U.S. is inevitable; the question is only with regard to how deep the recession is and to the nature of the recession – inflationary, stagflationary, hyperinflationary or deflationary. The consensus, especially amongst Keynesians, is that deflation is most likely. However, given the degree of currency debasement being seen internationally stagflation is also a risk. Hyperinflation, as being experienced in Belarus today, is the macroeconomic and monetary ‘black swan’.

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The euro has fallen and the German local elections have added to concerns over Greece. Exit polls suggest that Merkel’s ruling CDU has lost support ahead of parliamentary vote on Eurozone temporary bailout mechanism. There is also increasing speculation that she is preparing for a political farewell. On Wednesday morning, Germany's Federal Constitutional Court will deliver its ruling - awaited for over a year - on suits claiming Berlin is breaking German law and European treaties by contributing to multi-billion euro bailouts of Greece, Ireland and Portugal. There is a real risk that politics in Germany may soon lead to end of the European Monetary Union and euro as we know it.

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/here-we-go-us-futures-plunge-milan-dax-down-5-italian-finds-halted-eurusd-sub-141

It is unclear what just spooked the market, but whatever it is, stocks have had enough fun for the day. After the ECB just announced that it had monetized a whopping E13.3 billion in the past week, nearly double expectations, and a total of E134 billion since the SMP program's inception, the market took one quick look at just how effective this program has been, shuddered, and plunged realizing that neither ECB intervention, nor the shorting halt is doing anything at all. As a result, ES is now down 21, EURUSD just dropped below 1.41 (Chinabot is about to give up), and rolling halt of Italian banks have started, with Intessa, Mediaset and Impreglio all halted. We expect UniCredit to follow suit as usual.

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banned from Kos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 11:48 AM
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1. So the goldbugs at ZeroHedge are reveling in glee, no doubt.
Zero "hedge" - 100% bear/shorts betting on the destruction of the West.

Nice crowd.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:01 PM
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3. you either trade the market, or the market trades you,& it's the puppet politicians & their bankster
overlords who are destroying the West, not people who are prudent with wealth preservation.
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banned from Kos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:12 PM
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7. those are some nifty misnomers you wheeled out
nevertheless, Perma-Bears betting on the destruction of the West (no matter whose fault) and then actively rooting for it get no respect from me.

If they are right (which they will not be) there will be 80 million of us holding cups out in the streets. Greece will fail but hopefully the EU will contain things.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 02:04 PM
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9. I never said I'm a perm-bear,I have holdings in several select equities that I think are undervalued
I also am definitely not cheerleading for anyone's demise other than the banksters.

here is a positive solution for the US:



30 MILLION PRODUCTIVE JOBS TO REBUILD US INFRASTRUCTURE, INDUSTRY AND AGRICULTURE: THE PROGRAM TO END THE ECONOMIC DEPRESSION

The US and the world are gripped by a deepening economic depression. There is no recovery and no automatic business cycle which will revive the economy. This bottomless depression will worsen until policies are reformed. The depression results from deregulated and globalized financial speculation, especially the $1.5 quadrillion world derivatives bubble. The US industrial base has been gutted, and the US standard of living has fallen by almost two thirds over the last four decades. We must reverse this trend of speculation, de-industrialization, and immiseration. Current policy bails out bankers, but harms working people, industrial producers, farmers, and small business. We must defend civil society and democratic institutions from the effects of high unemployment and economic breakdown. We therefore demand:


1. Measures to reduce speculation and minimize the burden of fictitious capital:

End all bailouts of banks and financial institutions. Claw back the TARP and other public money given or lent to financiers. Abolish the notion of too big to fail; JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, Citibank, Wells Fargo and other Wall Street zombie banks are insolvent and must be seized by the FDIC for chapter 7 liquidation, with derivatives eliminated by triage. Re-institute the Glass-Steagall firewall to separate banks, brokerages, and insurance. Ban credit default swaps and adjustable rate mortgages. To generate revenue and discourage speculation, levy a 1% Tobin tax (securities transfer tax or trading tax) on all financial transactions including derivatives (futures, options, indices, and over the counter derivatives), stocks, bonds, foreign exchange, and commodities, especially program trading, high-frequency trading, and flash trading.

Set up a 15% reserve requirement for all OTC derivatives. Use Tobin tax revenue and a revived corporate income tax to provide immediate tax relief to individuals, families, the self-employed, and small business by increasing personal exemptions and standard deductions. Stop all foreclosures on primary residences, businesses, and farms for five years or the duration of the depression, whichever lasts longer. Set a 10% maximum rate of interest on credit cards and payday loans. Re-regulate commodities markets with 100% margin requirements, position limits, and anti-speculation protections for hedgers and end users to prevent oil and gasoline price spikes. Enforce labor laws and anti-trust laws against monopolies and cartels. Restore individual chapter 11.


2. Measures to nationalize the Federal Reserve, cut federal borrowing, and provide 0% federal credit for production:

Seize the Federal Reserve and bring it under the US Treasury as the National Bank of the United States, no longer the preserve of unelected and unaccountable cliques of incompetent and predatory bankers. The size of the money supply, interest rates, and approved types of lending must be determined by public laws passed and debated openly, passed by the congress and signed by the president. Stop US government borrowing from zombie banks and foreigners -- let the US government function as its own bank. Reverse current policy by instituting 0% federal LENDING with preferential treatment for tangible physical production and manufacturing of goods and commodities, to include industry, agriculture, construction, mining, energy production, transportation, infrastructure building, public works, and scientific research, but not financial services and speculation.

Issue successive tranches of $1 trillion as needed to create 30 million union-wage productive jobs and attain full employment for the first time since 1945, reversing the secular decline in the US standard of living. Provide 0% credit to reconvert idle auto and other plants and re-hire unemployed workers to build modern rail, mass transit, farm tractors, and aerospace equipment, including for export. Extend 0% federal credit for production to small businesses like auto and electronics repair shops, dry cleaners, restaurants, tailors, family farms, taxis, and trucking. Maintain commercial credit for retail stores. Create an unlimited rediscount guarantee by the National Bank for public works projects to provide cash to local banks for bills of exchange pertaining to infrastructure and public works. Repatriate the foreign dollar overhang by encouraging China, Japan, and other dollar holders to place orders for US-made capital goods and modern hospitals. Revive the US Export-Import Bank. Set up a 10% tariff to protect domestic re-industrialization. Nationalize and operate GM, Chrysler, CIT, and other needed but insolvent firms as a permanent public sector. Maintain Amtrak and USPS.

3. Measures to re-industrialize, build infrastructure, develop science drivers, create jobs, and restore a high-wage economy:

State and local governments and special government agencies modeled on the Tennessee Valley Authority will be prime contractors for an ambitious program of infrastructure and public works subcontracted to the private sector. To deal with collapsing US infrastructure, modernize the US elgeneration, pebble bed, high temperature reactors of 1,000 to 2,000 megawatts each. Rebuild the rail system with 50,000 miles of ultra-modern maglev Amtrak rail reaching into every state. Rebuild the entire interstate highway system to 21st century standards. Rebuild drinking water and waste water systems nationwide. Promote canal building and irrigation. For health care, build 1,000 500-bed modern hospitals to meet the minimum Hill-Burton standards of 1946.

Train 250,000 doctors over the next decade. The Davis-Bacon Act will mandate union pay scales for all projects. For the farm sector, provide a debt freeze for the duration of the crisis, 0% federal credit for working capital and capital improvements, a ban on foreclosures, and federal price supports at 110% of parity across the board, with farm surpluses being used for a new Food for Peace program to stop world famine and genocide. Working with other interested nations, invest $100 billion each in: biomedical research to cure dread diseases; high energy physics (including lasers) to develop fusion power and beyond; and a multi-decade NASA program of moon-Mars manned exploration, permanent colonization, and industrial production. These science drivers will provide the technological spin-offs to modernize the entire US economy in the same way that the NASA moon shot gave us microchips and computers in the 1960s. These steps will expand and upgrade the national stock of capital goods and enhance the real productivity of US labor. Return the federal budget and foreign trade to surplus in 5 years or less.


4. Measures to defend and expand the social safety net:

Restore all cuts; full funding at improved levels for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, jobless benefits, WIC, Head Start, and related programs. Offer Medicare for All to anyone under 65 who wants it at $100 per person per month, with reduced rates for families, students, and the unemployed. Pay for this with Tobin tax revenues and TARP clawback, and by ending the Iraq and Afghan wars. Seek to raise life expectancy by five years for starters. No rationing or death panels; savings can come only by finding cures. Quickly reach a $15 per hour living wage. Repeal the Taft-Hartley Act and affirm the right to organize. Pass card check to promote collective bargaining.

5. Measures to re-launch world trade and promote world recovery:

Create a new world monetary system including the euro, the yen, the dollar, and the ruble, plus emerging Arab and Latin American regional currencies, with fixed exchange rates and narrow bands of fluctuation enforced by participating governments. Institute clearing and gold settlement among member states. Replace the IMF with a Multilateral Development Bank to finance world trade and infrastructure.

The goal of the system must be to re-launch world trade through exports of high-technology capital goods, especially to sub-Saharan Africa, south Asia, and the poorer parts of Latin America. Promote a world Marshall Plan of great projects of world infrastructure, including: a Middle East reconstruction and development program; plans for the Ganges-Bramaputra, Indus, Mekong, Amazon, and Nile-Congo river basins; bridge-tunnel combinations to span the Bering Strait, the Straits of Gibraltar, the Straits of Malacca, the Sicilian narrows, and connect Japan to the Asian mainland; second Panama canal and Kra canals; Eurasian silk road, Cape to Cairo/Dakar to Djibouti, Australian coastal, and Inter-American rail projects, and more. American businesses will receive many of these orders, which means American jobs.

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This program will create 30 million jobs in less than five years. It will end the depression, rebuild the US economy, improve wages and standards of living, re-start productive investment, and attain full employment with increased levels of capital investment per job. Most orders placed under this program will go to US private sector bidders. Because of the vastly increased volume of goods put on the market, inflation will not result.


http://chan4chan.com/archive/180190/Chan4Chan
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 07:15 PM
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10. Seems you've conflated destruction of the banking cartels..
with destruction of the West.

Life will go on without big finance sucking out their 30%.
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banned from Kos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 08:14 PM
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11. Unfortunately a country's well being is tied to its banking system
and there is no other model than the one the West has.

England nationalized one of their banking giants, Northern Rock, in 2008 and loaned them 28 billion pounds then fired the shareholders and Board. Today, NR has repaid 70% and is going back public by the end of the year. What else could they do? Remain a permanent ward of the state?

None of the "socialist" mainland European countries have a different model than we do (public central banks and private deposit banks).

The market is responding to debt fear. Prediction - the markets will go down. Then up then down again. All this has been done many times before.

Yet the model won't change - they will just tweak it. The best we can do is regulate the bastards.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 09:53 PM
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12. We will do fine when the banks operate as utilities..
rather than parasites.

North Dakota is thriving. Iceland is recovering nicely.

Time to take out the trash.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:00 PM
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2. Creating debt to solve a debt problem does not make sense to anyone but bankers.
They go to amazing lengths to avoid facing reality, and seem to have been given the power to drag whole countries down with them as the tumble into the abysses of denial.
At this point, I have nothing but amazement as I watch.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:06 PM
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6. or as I put it- "we are all Keynesians now" = "we all are, or will soon be, chattel debt slaves now"
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:02 PM
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4. And it's Labor Day.
Here's where we find ourselves, laborers.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:03 PM
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5. Nothing to see here, move along. We have a speech to look forward to.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:28 PM
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8. Yep, that will fix it all. n/t
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