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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:32 PM Original message |
Obama and Jobs: Why I Don't Believe Him Anymore - by Matt Taibbi |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well, I never did, I'd paid close attention to his record. |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. +1 |
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paulkienitz (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 02:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
53. that's why I've been saying all year |
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AikidoSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #53 |
93. Wow! The news item on the "Christian" church closing its food bank |
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DollyM (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
96. but many food banks still carry on . . . ours does . . . |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 03:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
57. same here, Warpy |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. Someone else beat you to posting this by a short time. |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Yup |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. So it seems. Oh, well... |
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Wind Dancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. You aren't making a case in favor of Obama... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I'm not trying to make that case. I'm just pointing something out. |
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Wind Dancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Fair enough! |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. So post some positive stuff about Obama. |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #30 |
66. Bullshit. |
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xiamiam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
33. i respect taibbi..he's been relenteless re wall street..wish that obama had been the same |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Me too. A lot. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
98. Obama might wish he could be all relentless against Wall Street |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 07:45 AM Response to Reply #16 |
61. Yeah right. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 10:35 AM Response to Reply #16 |
71. As for the posting - yes people sometimes screw up and post things twice - |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
83. I doubt it was meant for that effect. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 11:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
48. So are we throwing this author under the bus also? |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. given that Labor is giving him the finger after three years of nothing, |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. My take on it is that when the Republicans *and* the Democrats both hate your guts.. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. then again, if you stand for nothing, you will be sure to offend |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #6 |
65. Nonsense |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I haven't been to FR in weeks. The last time I was there was to see |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. What are you doing "all over" FR? |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Actually I never go over there, I was making an assumption , Waiting to be corrected. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
41. And you were corrected. I'm not sure what you were implying, |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Expect at least 2 each in GD and GDP |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. why not base your argument on the content of the posted op-ed? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 03:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Because I don't choose to do that. |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
74. taibbi bases his opinion upon stated facts |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
36. Taibbi makes a valid point in his article |
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tgal (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
3. Me too Matt |
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teddy51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
4. The problem still remains.... |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
13. Obama doing what Obama does best. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. I don't care about campaign mojo. campaigns are nothing. I want |
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Jim_Shorts (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
80. Obama is just a - flim flam man |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #80 |
89. That really was the point of the clips I posted. |
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banned from Kos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
14. More bullshit from Taibbi - Obama's #1 WH guest for two years was |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Deleted message |
banned from Kos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I am an Obama supporter! Should we all leave DU? (the few left) |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
94. After tomorrow, probably yes. |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
81. yeah, Taibbi has actually put his life on the line |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
17. Matt Taibbi is a very hard working writer. n/t |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
18. taibbi never did. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. yes, exactly nt |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
47. He has become very hard to listen to. I couldn't watch much after "eat your peas." |
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creon (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
19. Then don't |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 07:50 AM Response to Reply #19 |
62. Yes he can. |
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creon (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #62 |
100. No problem. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
22. "almost painful to listen to him" - agreed. Partially, that's because he's so good |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. Why should we believe him? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Observe with a cynical eye, knowing that the alternative WILL be worse. |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Yup. Fool me once. etc, etc, etc... |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 09:32 AM Response to Reply #34 |
67. +1 nt |
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xiamiam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. same here..and that is really sad because he is a great speaker |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 02:21 AM Response to Reply #22 |
52. that's called being a LIAR |
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UnrepentantLiberal (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 03:14 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. That's exactly what Obama is. He's not week. He's not indecisive. |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #56 |
72. That was CampaignObama, a different guy than PresidentObama. |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
25. Taibbi's right! |
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dreamnightwind (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
37. Exactly how I feel |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
39. Taibbi nails it again. |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 07:57 AM Response to Reply #39 |
64. Don't forget more tax cuts! And budget cuts! |
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merkins (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
42. The economy is so bad Exxon-Mobil had to lay off 25 Congressmen. |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #42 |
70. Nice!!! |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #42 |
76. Bam! |
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sfpcjock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
43. You can say he didn't try to compromise with punk anarchists in Congress. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
44. The anti-progressive brigade is out trashing Taibbi, I see. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
45. Bill Daly is hardcore when it comes to politics. I wouldn't fuck with him if I were you, Matt. |
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dreamnightwind (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 01:04 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Hogwash |
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Mendocino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 02:33 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. That we do. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
103. You wouldn't know a real Democrat if he stood in front of you. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #45 |
68. Funny, I don't recall a single filibuster. |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Yup, Harry was too busy keeping his powder dry to ACTUALLY call their fucking bluff... |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #68 |
102. You sound like Alberto Gonzales -- "I don't recall" |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. Ok. Genius, Ms. "Real Democrat", Obama Toady or whatever your name is. |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 11:23 AM Response to Reply #45 |
78. When...WHEN!!!!??? |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #78 |
99. +1 |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 05:13 PM Response to Reply #78 |
101. I can't help myself. See, I'm a real Democrat. |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. Are you still here? Hasn't your check from Obama for America arrived yet? |
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Mendocino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
50. We elected a dem |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #50 |
85. yes, I miss Paul Wellstone |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 02:21 AM Response to Original message |
51. corporate whores LOVE high unemployment |
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YOHABLO (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 02:38 AM Response to Original message |
55. Actions Always Speak Louder Than Words |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #55 |
87. oh, we'll vote |
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blkmusclmachine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 03:56 AM Response to Original message |
58. Phony "bi-partisanship:" |
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orbitalman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
59. K & R |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
60. Once again....best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.... |
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maddiemom (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
63. OBAMA/JOBS |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
73. Accurate assessment. |
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emsimon33 (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
75. I was skeptical but hopeful during the campaign, BUT Rahm & the others |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
77. I guess tonight is his |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
79. Obama has governed like a midwestern moderate Democrat |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. What? Obama to me looks like |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #82 |
91. That doesn't quite address the specific accomplishments |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. Today and everyday, the gap between the haves and have nots grows. |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #95 |
107. I don't disagree with the premise |
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angry citizen (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
84. Mat got it right |
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FreedomVoice (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
86. +1 |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
88. Yup and for people who say "What could he do?" |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
90. Yes, yes, yes. (Slaps forehead) |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
92. Yes, it is painful in many ways |
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RowdyRacer (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 02:39 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. I don't believe him either... |
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dreamnightwind (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #97 |
106. LOL |
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