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dorksied Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:00 AM
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Rick Snyder cuts the poor off welfare

http://news.yahoo.com/mich-governor-signs-48-month-welfare-limit-231915012.html

"We are returning cash assistance to its original intent as a transitional program to help families while they work toward self-sufficiency," Snyder said in a statement. He noted that the state still will help the poor by offering food stamps, health care coverage through Medicaid, child care and emergency services.



For some reason... I think people are about to get rabid in this mans state.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:04 AM
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1. Ah deserving poor laws
They should have gone with the Tudors, I see they are back in fashion.

Guv..this is what leads to desperation.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 05:09 AM
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12. They're being brought back here (UK) as well
Our benefits (welfare) system has recently been "reformed" to punish the unemployed more.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:33 AM
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16. What is funny though
Is that the referencevwill be missed...

I can see the Stewart industrial code in outpr future...

Yup maximum wages imposed by law...I wish I was kidding.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 04:53 PM
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20. I can see it too
Our government so clearly wants to destroy the welfare state (and their Fleet Street sympathisers are helping by pushing all the myths).
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:05 AM
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2. What is "self-sufficiency"? Word games?
In my mind, the term *self-sufficiency* calls to mind a hunter-gatherer existence. Either gather or grow all one's own food, and buy absolutely nothing to survive.

If something else is meant, it would seem to be some shade of *interdependence*.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:15 AM
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3. You know , the old Personal Responsibility. Any kind of public
assistance if frowned upon in Right Winger land.

This is why I cringed when some in our party took up
the phrase--personal responsibility.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 01:09 AM
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6. I'm surprised he doesn't offer the poor a little flooded swamp land and a shovel.
"Get your own seeds, you good-for-nothings." That seems to be his attitude.

What chances does he have of being re-elected?

He is just plain old mean.
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lbrtbell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:32 AM
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4. I like how a Dem governor started the four-year limit
Exemptions, my ass...as if she didn't know that was the first step toward this crap happening. :mad:
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 01:47 AM
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7. Unfortunately, it is usually "Moderate" democrats who
succeed in pushing through the absolute worse ideas that make republicans blush with delight.

Republicans fail because everyone knows how extreme they are, so we all join together to prevent them from succeeding. But when "moderate" democrats get any power and decide that they need to push through those exact same extreme measures they always find ways of pretending that they aren't doing something extreme, and they pretend they are being forced to push through something they don't want to do.

The result is always welfare deform that massively increases poverty, Free trade nightmares like NAFTA. Note that Obama has Three (3) Free Trade agreements coming at us this month after he spent his entire campaign promising that he was against free trade agreements. He was going to force NAFTA and CAFTA to be revised to include labor and environmental standards. That, of course, has never happened, and these new agreements do not include those standards either. The idea of protecting workers or the environment in trade agreements is dead.

Even though we are still suffering from an economic collapse that happened in-part because of the massive out-sourcing of jobs, he's still pushing trade agreements that will outsource more jobs.

Even though NAFTA destroyed the agricultural industry in several countries because of the power of big agribusiness and big subsidies, and destroyed the economies of several nations, they're going ahead knowing that these agreements will do the same now to several more nations. South Korea is going to be one of the nations targeted to lose this time.

It's always "moderate" democrats that give us the worst policies, and this administration is continuing that trend. :(
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DrunkenBoat Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:33 AM
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5. Texas unemployment, 8.4%, and all those "new jobs" in TX = low-wage.
So what kind of self-sufficiency are we talking here?
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:17 AM
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8. Heh, they've got their van and river, or cardboard and trackside view
:sarcasm:
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:18 AM
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9. If I could figure out the GOOPs angle, I would say they are squeezing people until they revolt.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 05:06 AM
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11. They are trying to make people move elsewhere
Think about it.. If you have no money, few possessions, no job, and you get cut off from whatever pittance the state offers.. for the price of a bus ticket, you can relocate to a place nearby that may have more to offer.. Cities already do this to some degree..they aid in the "export" of their poor to neighboring places.

The other option is to force other struggling relatives & friends into "adopting" these unfortunate people, making everyone in the family poorer.

The only "winner" is the state that no longer has to help out, and gets to keep that money in the slush fund for their friends & donors.,
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 08:20 PM
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17. But if a lot of states do it, won't that lead to a lot of pissed off people?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 03:22 AM
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19. Sure.. it will be pretty much like when the south poached the manufacturing base
from the midwest/north east and turned those places into the rust belt.

but the places who are "losing" poor folks will be happy as clams.

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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 03:44 AM
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10. Just wondering most GOP consider themselves Christian and marked by God how about this one?
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 06:36 AM
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15. Sure they do
They're one of those "New Christians". Think all that crap about "helping the poor" in the Bible was a result of excessive drinking so they ignore it (or cross it out with the Sharpie so they don't have to see it)
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 05:11 AM
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13. Let's help people by making life even harder for them
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 05:33 AM
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14. the recall is going forward and he knows it... I think he is lashing out
and trying to get as much republican credibility as he can before the end comes
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 08:22 PM
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18. since unemployment is rampant it's a solid FUCK YOU to the poor
and no doubt many will cheer this solution. I hate this country sometimes.
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