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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:14 PM
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Rick Perry's "Job creation": How many jobs went to undocumented workers hired illegally?
Edited on Wed Sep-07-11 11:36 PM by ProgressiveEconomist
How many jobs went to undocumented workers hired illegally?

Was it hundreds of thousands for whom a minimum wage job in Texas provided a princely sum to children and spouses living much cheaper back home in Mexico? The answer evidently is a clear 'YES'!

WHAT'S YOUR OPINION?

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In MSNBC's wrapup of the Republican "debate" tonight, Lawrence O'Donnell remarked that 300,000 of the "million" jobs Perry bragged about "creating" tonight were government jobs, mainly funded by President Obama's stimulus spending on grants to local governments. Like other backward states, Texas has scores of counties. But Texas is the champion of wasteful duplication in government, with 254 counties, more than any other state (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_counties_in_Texas )! Thus Texas had many more bites at the stimulus apple than any other state; a major portion of the jobs Perry touts were due directly to Texas backwardness and aggressive pursuit of stimulus dollars.

Another unique attribute of the state of Texas is its long border with Mexico, a country with much cheaper living standards than the average US jurisdiction. I wondered how much of the "Texas miracle" may have come from undocumented Mexican workers who cross the long Texas border for months or years at a time to be hired illegally by Texas employers and to send money home to support their families.

I googled 'remittances" +"from Texas" +"to Mexico"' and was amazed by the number of "hits" I got. One of the best was one of many newspaper article about a mean-spirited Republican-proposed state law that would add an 8 percent tax on remittances to Mexico (but not to Canada or other predominantly Caucasian countries)! See http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_17614769 .

The statistic that caught my eye here was that an estimated $4.3 billion in remittances were sent from Texas to Mexico and Latin America in the most recent year for which the Inter-American Development Bank could provide data (evidently 2006).

In 2009, the US minimum wage reached $7.25 an hour, or $14,500 for a 2,000-hour work year. Dividing $14,500 into $4.3 billion yields about 300,000 full-time minimum wage jobs. Living expenses in Texas would eat up at least half of those paychecks, so the number of Texas workers sending remittances home to Mexico and points south would have to have been at least 600,000. If all jobs were not 2,000 hours a year, that 600,000 would have to rise.

I have not yet found substantial time-series data on remittances from Texas to Mexico from the end of the Perry predecessor Governor George W. Bush era (in Y2K) to the present. But I did find an estimate that such remittances had risen 64 percent from 2004 to 2006 (see http://www.chron.com/business/article/Texas-Hispanic-immigrants-send-billions-home-1492876.php ). This represents just two years of Perry's almost eleven-year regime.

Thus apparently hundreds of thousands of the "million" jobs Perry takes credit for "creating" are due to increasingly porous borders on his watch as Governor. Added to the 300,000 jobs Texas's hundreds of counties took from President Obama's stimulus, this means that most of what Perry is touting is not due to any superior business climate Perry fostered, but rather to backwardness in government structure and head-in-sand attention to unlawful employer hiring of the undocumented under Governor Perry!
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:29 PM
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1. Perry HIMSELF mentioned the long TX border w Mexico, defending
(or trying to defend) his sorry record on K-12 education--did you notice that?

Too bad the NBC moderators didn't follow up and ask him whether that long border with Mexico might also explain the "million jobs" Perry bragged about "creating".
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:49 PM
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3. How exactly does the Texas border with Mexico justify Perry's weak education record?
What was he trying to get at?
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 12:00 AM
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5. I guess he was trying to argue it's a language issue, though
he didn't give a very persuasive or even articulate answer.

In national Census data, Hispanics have the lowest educational attainment of any major ethnicity except Native Americans, IIRC. School and work are competing activities, and many Hispanic teenagers take full-time jobs, when they can get them.
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 12:11 AM
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6. Here are Perry's exact words, from the MSNBC rebroadcast
of the debate, which just reached the education exchange I mentioned:

"When you share the border with Mexico, and you have as many people as we have coming into the state, you have a unique situation".

What Perry really meant we only can guess!
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 12:29 AM
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7. WOW!
What a douchebag! Blame the Mexicans!
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 08:04 AM
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8. "When you have as many people as we have coming into the state..."
If an influx of third-world immigrants could depress educational attainment in Texas, surely it also could elevate employers' capacity to hire--illegally--low-wage workers in Texas. By the way Perry said this phrase, I suspect he's used it many times before, in secret conversations with aides about just what drove the "Texas miracle" of "one million jobs"!
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:46 PM
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2. The jobs numbers come from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Edited on Wed Sep-07-11 11:46 PM by former9thward
A Division of the U.S. Department of Labor. They get these numbers from surveys. It is unlikely businesses would admit to a government agency they were hiring undocumented workers illegally. So it is likely that those jobs, whatever that number is, are not included in the jobs number.

Also one problem about attacking Perry on jobs is that it is also an attack on Obama. Both get their jobs numbers from the same place. If the Perry numbers are phoney then so are Obama's.
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:56 PM
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4. No, that's not right--the "CPS" surveys households, not employers,
and is supposed to sample groups of workers living in "colonias" just the same as it samples families in upscale Fort Worth suburbs.

Would spokesmen for households of workers have any systematic incentive to misreport employment? I don't think so.

Google '+"Current Population Survey" site:bls.gov' for authoritative information.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 11:32 AM
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9. I believe they would be even less truthful than business.
If you were an undocumented worker or had one in your household would you answer 'yes' to a division of the government? I doubt most would.

Again, regardless of the accuracy of the numbers, an attack on those numbers is an attack on Obama's numbers. They are the same.
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