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Thu Sep-08-11 02:25 PM
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If you are not voting for Obama, which Republican(s) would you not mind being elected president? |
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Thu Sep-08-11 03:39 PM
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:26 PM
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Thu Sep-08-11 04:32 PM
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63. The GOP will be happy if you don't vote |
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They don't want anyone to vote. They win elections when people don't vote. The GOP War on Voting - The Rolling Stone: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1898651
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:27 PM
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4. why is the original post not being deleted? |
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Thought there were rules here...we can now promote repubs on DEMocratic Underground?
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:31 PM
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10. I'm not promoting any Republicans. |
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:33 PM
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you are starting that conversation...go to a republican website for that shit...I guess only pro Obama posts get deleted here...DU has really fallen off the charts.
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:34 PM
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15. I must have developed a reputation for being against Obama. |
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:36 PM
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i do know that once Obama is officially the nominee of the dems, posts like yours will not be permitted...at least that's what I am told.
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:38 PM
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18. Can you find four other posts where I post against Obama? |
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:43 PM
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I am not referring to any other posts but the one you posted in this thread...all I'm saying is that posts like yours whould be deleted...just my opinion...nothing against you personally :-)
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:47 PM
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26. What the OP says is not against the rules. |
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It's a serious question. I can't say the same for your post, though.
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:49 PM
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28. You could hit alert, or ask the administrators, or both. |
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Thu Sep-08-11 03:01 PM
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38. Asking who isn't promoting anyone. eom |
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Thu Sep-08-11 03:27 PM
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48. it has been that way for a while now |
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we have been invaded by rethugs from MARS
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:27 PM
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5. If you don't vote for Obama... |
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We get to verbally pummel you should a Repiglickin win, plain and simple.
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Thu Sep-08-11 04:23 PM
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61. Um, no. Remember how 97690709897869878% percent of "liberals" just love Obama to death? |
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Edited on Thu Sep-08-11 04:40 PM by Edweird
Remember how those that are unhappy are dismissed as irrelevant because they are either part of a tiny insignificant far left fringe group that is out of touch with reality OR they are 'trolls'? Well, you can't have it both ways. You can't tell people their vote doesn't matter and then berate them for not voting for your candidate.
If Obama loses it is nobody's fault but his. He chose RW policy and he will have to live with how it affects the nation.
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:28 PM
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7. premise of the question is invalid |
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Not voting for Obama does not require that the non-voter prefer one of the Republicans running over Obama.
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Thu Sep-08-11 04:23 PM
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that not voting for Obama requires the nonvoter to prefer a Republican candidate.
It's just a question, for petes sake...speculation.
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Thu Sep-08-11 04:49 PM
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67. it was presented as an either/or question |
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Sorry, I don't live in a binary world, and I won't employ fake naivety to pretend that LoZoccolo was innocently asking "just a question". You know better than that too, and you know you do. Still, he presented it as an either/or, and I showed that this is invalid. What's your argument?
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:30 PM
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9. I like the way you put that |
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Who is acceptable if you don't want Obama.
Not voting for Obama insures the GOP candidate wins.
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:49 PM
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29. Yes. Not voting for President Obama's re-election helps a |
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Republican get elected. I can't support such a thing, and neither can the OP. It's a good question, and one that should be answered by anyone advocating voting against Obama, once he gets the nomination.
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:32 PM
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:33 PM
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12. Well this is just stupid..... |
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:33 PM
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13. What am I going to do now? |
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:46 PM
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Posted wrong place.
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:51 PM
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32. What rule is he breaking?... |
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Ignore or hide thread if LoZo's posts get your shorts in a bunch.
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:53 PM
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34. Get away with what? Valid question that breaks no rules. |
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:58 PM
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37. Posting pro Obama stuff on a democratic website? |
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Thu Sep-08-11 03:05 PM
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42. How is this OP pro-Obama? Take your time, I'll wait. |
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It's flamebait, pure and simple. His intent is to get other DUers fighting with each other.
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Thu Sep-08-11 03:09 PM
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43. Seems pretty self explanatory to me.The question is |
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If you aren't going to vote for Obama in the presidential election, which republican are you willing to live under.Because either a democrat or a republican is going to win the election. What don't you get?
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Thu Sep-08-11 03:13 PM
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46. This is what you don't get. The progressives that have been slighted for the past |
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3 years for expecting Obama to live up to his speeches made during the 2008 campaign are the key to his victory or defeat.
If I were you I'd worry about pissing them off even more.
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Thu Sep-08-11 03:35 PM
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50. If you were me? lol. Anybody who's vote is dertermined by |
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someone on an internet forum is indeed foolish. By the way, self identified liberals\progressives do support the president according to Gallup.
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Thu Sep-08-11 03:38 PM
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52. So then, which Republican would you prefere to be your President? |
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It's not a difficult question.
You don't want Obama, because you were slighted. Ok...who DO you want?
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Thu Sep-08-11 03:02 PM
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39. I feel the same way... |
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...about posts calling for primary challenges, referring to Pres. Obama as our "Republican President", insinuating anyone that supports Pres. Obama isn't a "real" Democrat, expressing the desire to not vote, vote "Green" or for a write-in...
...see how that works? The only difference is, LoZo hasn't broken any rules. The references above are either blatant disregard for the "rules" or pushing it pretty close to the line.
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:44 PM
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21. Does it really worry you that Obama could lose because progressives stayed home? |
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If so why the hell do you except the idea that Obama is the constant and the progressives have to be the variable. Obama can be as center right as he pleases and if he loses it is the fault of the progressives in your mind.
To me that sucks!
If Obama loses it's because he is playing to the independents of which there is not enough votes to win.
The right make up 30% the left make up 30% and the independents make up 30% with the other 10% being either very extreme or not interested. The repub can get the 30% of the right and enough of the independents to win. Obama can't do that. He can't get 30% of the left and enough independents to win by playing only to the independents!
He can't win with 30%. So does he think he will take republican votes? I think some more moderate voters will vote for him. Still not enough votes there to win.
As Rohm Emanuel said, "where are they going to go?" I'll tell you where. To organize a third party!
So go live in you ivory tower and throw arrows down to us lowly progressives but you are going to get screwed just as bad. If I were you I'd change my tune and work to persuade Obama that he needs progressive votes and not persuade progressives they need Obama!
I guarantee you that the Dems will have a low turn out if Obama continues to play to the independents.
Tonight's jobs speech will do little to give hope to the unemployed. The feeling is if you don't give a shit about us we don't give a shit about you. How much more do they have to lose anyway?
You might be able to tell that I really hate the political shape we are in and I even hate the idea that my vote will be a vote against the repub but not for Obama if I vote at all!
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:44 PM
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22. Well, I likely will vote for the least-objectionable Republican: Barack Obama. |
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Too bad there won't be a Democrat running.
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Thu Sep-08-11 05:48 PM
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78. So another vote for Obama ... check. |
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:45 PM
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23. Moderator, please delete this thread. nt |
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:50 PM
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30. What rule is broken by it? It's a valid question. |
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It's somewhat satirical, but that's not against DU rules, as far as I know.
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:46 PM
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25. Write in is always a good choice need not vote for a republican. |
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:48 PM
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27. if you'll take the "lesser of two evils", do you have a limit on the lesser evil? |
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If the repubs run Satan himself will you vote for anyone running with a D? What if a Koch got a D by their name? That's still probably better than Satan.
And, why telegraph your vote 14 months in advance instead of making the lesser evil at least pretend to not be evil until the election?
I'm going to wait until closer to the election to decide. Then vote for the individual on the ballot who best represents ME. If the majority of electoral votes don't go my way then so be it. I let the parties know what I want even though a majority of the voters probably voted for a letter (R or D) instead of a candidate. Nothing's going to change until enough voters let the parties know what they want instead of being control by the parties.
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:53 PM
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33. Between Buddy Rhoemer and Obama I would be hard pressed to pick.. |
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:shrug: I can not believe how much damge has been done under Obama...
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:56 PM
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35. Any Republican who brings back the antiwar, anti-Wall Street, anti-torture movements! |
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What did Obama do with our popular uprisings?
:shrug:
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Thu Sep-08-11 02:57 PM
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36. I don't prefer any Republican over Obama. So which one would you vote for? |
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Thu Sep-08-11 03:04 PM
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Ooops oh wait, he's a Democrat. Ahhh, none that I can think of, they are all idiots.
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Thu Sep-08-11 03:04 PM
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41. Yay!!!! I don't have to pick one! |
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I'm voting for the Democrat, our President, Barack Obama!
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Thu Sep-08-11 03:42 PM
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55. What Dems are in the Presidential run? |
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You made a funny! We're all so proud of you!
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Thu Sep-08-11 04:22 PM
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59. Actually I mis-read your post - sorry |
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I thought you meant something else
glad you are a vocal Obama supporter
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That just means I'm even MORE proud of you! ;)
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Thu Sep-08-11 03:09 PM
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44. Ummmm. Perhaps Richard Nixon, who appears to be a far leftist by today's standards. |
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Thu Sep-08-11 05:49 PM
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79. Just as dead as FDR and Reagan. |
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90. Well given the fantasy premise, a fantasy answer seems acceptable. |
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Thu Sep-08-11 03:12 PM
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45. Well, I AM voting for President Obama, so I have no answer. |
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Those who are not voting for him, though, may have answers of one sort or another. I cannot imagine any of the current Republicans as President. It's too horrible a thought. So, I'll be voting for Obama and trying to get others to do so, as well.
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Thu Sep-08-11 05:22 PM
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71. This is what concerns me the most. |
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When Bush I and II were running, I swore I'd move to Canada. When McCain was running, I swore I'd move to Mexico. I look at the GOP field and I swear I'll move to Mars. I hear they might at least have water. There is no other option. This whole planet will be screwed.
And, I am NOT one of those "what other choice do you have" supporters. I support our President and the Democratic Party as a whole. No pessimism...anymore.
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At least he'd cut off the military-industrial complex
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Fri Sep-09-11 04:07 PM
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92. Ah! That's who I'd pick! |
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He also warned against destroying the social safety net.
I like Ike!
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Thu Sep-08-11 05:50 PM
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80. Bernie is a Republican??? |
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Thu Sep-08-11 05:56 PM
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83. If the OP can pose a false choice, I can call an I an R. n/t |
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Fri Sep-09-11 04:08 PM
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93. I'm still trying to find out which party "the only adult in the room" belongs to. |
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I would have thought Democratic, but "Post Partisan" seems to be the preferred title.
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Thu Sep-08-11 03:38 PM
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51. Abe Lincoln, Dwight Eisenhower, and maybe even Richard Nixon. |
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Thu Sep-08-11 03:41 PM
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54. I will probably vote for the lesser evil |
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That said,it is too soon to commit, and I am still waiting for DADT to end officially certified. I am not happy at all with the current COC, but I have always voted party line,that's getting harder to do. I am a wild card voter. In '68 I wrote in McCarthy..(HHH just couldn't;t come out against the War) Ended up with Nixon, but hell ,he's now a liberal!
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Thu Sep-08-11 03:52 PM
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56. Neither of my two "favorite" republicans (semi-oxymoron) are running. |
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Dick Lugar and Chuck Hagel. Also, I could vote for the piece of Ron Paul that wants to stop all of our wars.
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Thu Sep-08-11 04:26 PM
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The question does not apply to me. I have no problem with Obama, and I will be glad to vote for him.
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Thu Sep-08-11 04:33 PM
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64. i love how some dem,rahter than answering |
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will instead try and get the thread deleted... they dont want the TRUTH that a non vote for Obama helps the GOP win...
If teh GOP wins l will personally blame ever so called progressive who said they wouldnt vote for Obama. You can cry and moan about how Obam aisnt liberal enough all day long but that FACT remains he is a hell of a lot more liberal than any reupke thug
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Thu Sep-08-11 04:34 PM
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65. What has Obama done to be considered "evil"? |
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Thu Sep-08-11 05:34 PM
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75. Renditions, and therefore torture, still going on |
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Thu Sep-08-11 04:34 PM
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66. Teddy Roosevelt or Dwight Eisenhower |
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Thu Sep-08-11 04:53 PM
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68. Doesn't matter... I cast my vote and lets the chips fall where they may. |
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Don't let fear or bullying change the way you exercise you right to vote. YOUR vote... YOUR voice. Use it to support YOUR chosen candidate.
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Thu Sep-08-11 05:12 PM
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70. Yay! Chicago style GOTV tactics! |
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Thu Sep-08-11 05:25 PM
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72. " Chicago style GOTV tactics" |
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Wow, where did you pick up that little meme?
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Thu Sep-08-11 06:06 PM
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88. lol Some folks aren't even bothering to hide their BS anymore |
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Thu Sep-08-11 05:44 PM
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76. Wow! That was an epic poor choice of a phrase! |
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I didn't expect to see that often repeated elsewhere phrase on DU. Seriously?
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Thu Sep-08-11 05:27 PM
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73. The Bedraggled Corpse Of Teddy Roosevelt... |
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Thu Sep-08-11 05:51 PM
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81. Why not the mythical FDR???? |
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Fri Sep-09-11 04:22 PM
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97. I don't know about the 'mythical' FDR, but the real FDR was no |
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goddamned Republican (per the OP).
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Thu Sep-08-11 05:33 PM
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74. Zombie Theodore Roosevelt |
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Thu Sep-08-11 05:46 PM
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77. None...zip...zero...zilch. Period. |
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Thu Sep-08-11 05:53 PM
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82. Those not voting are not capable of comprehending the ramifications of their decision. |
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so I doubt they would even care.
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Thu Sep-08-11 05:57 PM
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84. More inane gibberish. |
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Thu Sep-08-11 06:00 PM
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Thu Sep-08-11 06:00 PM
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86. I'm voting for the Democratic candidate.. |
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Doesn't mean I'm happy with the President though because I'm far from that.
Anyone of the batshit insane teabaggers running for prez would mean the end of America if they get elected.
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This will help bring us all together.
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89. Before Obama, I could never imagine voting for anything but a democrat |
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Edited on Thu Sep-08-11 06:17 PM by whatchamacallit
Now, I'm willing to give anyone who *genuinely* supports traditional democratic values a shot.
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91. Obama is the only Republican I'll vote for. |
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94. I'll vote for Obama just to prevent a Democrat from getting to the White House. |
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95. You first, which Republican are you voting for? |
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