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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 06:38 PM Original message |
All generalities, more privatiziation, bankrupt Social Security |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. I think you're wrong but your post is short on specifics. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. The speech was short on specifics. Listen to it again. |
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sad sally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 12:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
29. Fifteen hundred dollars that would have been taken out of your pocket |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 01:04 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. the typical working family does not make $50,000 a year |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 01:06 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Thank you. Bush's tax cuts were sold by the same slight of hand. Less money for the poor |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 02:54 AM Response to Reply #32 |
44. Deleted message |
JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 02:51 AM Response to Reply #29 |
43. The fifteen hundred dollars will be taken out of the Social Security reserve fund. |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 03:23 AM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Republicans have been pushing this payroll tax cut scam for years. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 03:38 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. But you still would lose the revenue that would be lost to the tax cuts. |
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dawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 09:03 AM Response to Reply #43 |
61. It doesn't come out of the trust fund. |
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sad sally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #43 |
66. Same deal in this house (on SS), but here's who can get richer: |
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Rosco T. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. Bullshit... you aren't listening at all. |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I thought this was going to be a summary of the "debate" last night n/t |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. So what did you like about what he said? |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. You keep saying that. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 01:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
42. I didn't listen |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
3. He's a compromiser. He's joining the center with the right. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 08:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Political morality and values can take a leap, Obama seems to have said. |
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teddy51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
4. I don't think you are watching what I am for sure... I dare the Repugs to ignore this jobs bill. |
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DrunkenBoat (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 08:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. Why should they ignore it, Obama got the ideas from them. |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 09:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. They're cheering right now |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
6. He's a neoliberal. Set your expectations really low.. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
7. Hey did we ever get those mangoes Bush negotiated for us? |
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banned from Kos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
11. You are poorly informed. The health care bill greatly expanded Medicaid |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. HCR greatly expanded access for private insurance profiteers n/t |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. And, thanks to the lack of good paying jobs in this country, |
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banned from Kos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 09:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. yeah - $29,000 for a family of four will qualify for Medicaid |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 09:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Those that don't qualify for Medicare |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 12:25 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Medicare income limit? There is no Medicare income limit as far |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 06:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
57. You are correct I meant Medicaid |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 09:26 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Who is going to pay for that, Banned? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 12:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
26. It cut Medicare somehow. Just how is unclear -- unless you |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
14. You're the first person I've seen who noticed that he's |
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LadyInAZ (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 09:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Cut backs for ss and elder |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 09:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. If you are disabled, they clearly hope you will die before you collect. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 12:28 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. ah, the death panel ploy.... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 03:09 AM Response to Reply #30 |
46. Check this out. Obama recited the plan proposed by the Chamber of Commerce. |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 03:30 AM Response to Reply #30 |
52. Have you ever tried to apply for social security disability? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #52 |
60. Deleted message |
ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 08:56 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. I'm not talking about anything even similar to dealth panels |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 12:27 AM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Our premiums -- our payroll taxes -- were raised by the Reagan |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 12:38 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. No, it definitely is not right. It is theft, outright.. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 01:24 AM Response to Reply #14 |
36. Um, wrong. Paul Krugman says, "The proposal is significantly bolder and better than expected." |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 01:32 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. You're good at fishing for generic comments with other people's |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 01:40 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I offer facts. You're good at empty rhetoric without a single quote to back up your claims. |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 01:45 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I don't need to post generic praise from talking heads |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 01:49 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. A Pulitzer-Prize winning economist's praise trumps any empty negative rhetoric you & others offer. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 03:10 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. This is the Chamber of Commerce plan slightly embellished |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #47 |
64. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. The Teamsters' Hoffa & AFL-CIO's Trumka praised the plan. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 03:06 AM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Krugman probably has no reason to worry about his Social Security. |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
17. K&R....n/t |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
18. THANK YOU. It is enraging that people accept this Republican crap as the new normal. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 01:19 AM Response to Reply #18 |
35. Yeah, that's why Republicans were giving him standing ovations time and again. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 03:30 AM Response to Reply #35 |
51. Yes they did when Obama promoted trade agreements and "adjusting" social programs |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 08:31 AM Response to Reply #51 |
59. +1 |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 03:11 AM Response to Reply #18 |
48. This is, really is, the Republican Plan just doctored a little to |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
25. Thank you. k/r |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
34. That is not what he said. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 03:13 AM Response to Reply #34 |
49. It's the plan proposed by the Chamber of Commerce with the |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #49 |
65. AFL-CIO's Trumka & the Teamsters' Hoffa praised the plan. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
37. NYT Editorial: "An aggressive Obama challenges Congress to reignite the economy." |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 03:31 AM Response to Reply #37 |
53. Who wrote the editorial? Thomas Friedman or Bill Kristol? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 09:36 AM Response to Reply #53 |
63. NYT editorials have been nagging critics of Pres. Obama for awhile. Read their archives. |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 03:32 AM Response to Original message |
54. Now more than ever, Be in Washington DC on Oct 6th, and stay! |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 06:15 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. +1000000 |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
58. Sounds like a trademark Obama speech to me. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
62. Payroll tax cut helps small employers |
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