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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:28 AM
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California to enforce foie gras ban in July 2012
California to enforce foie gras ban in July 2012

Besides a proposed ban on shark fin soup, California is also set to prohibit another exotic food – foie gras, or duck liver.
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By July 2012, duck liver cannot be served throughout the state if the duck was force fed, which is the method used by duck raisers for the liver to become fatty.

California became the first state to ban foie gras, in 2004, but the law will not take effect until the middle of next year. Then-Gov. Arnold Schwarzengger signed the legislation into law, which not only bans force feeding of ducks but also prohibits selling of foie gras produced that way. The fine for violators could reach up to $1,000 a day.

The eight-year gap between the passage of the law and its implementation gave liver duck producers time to find alternative ways to force feed the animal, but none was found.

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/90059198?California%20to%20enforce%20foie%20gras%20ban%20in%20July%202012
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:29 AM
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1. Class warfare!
:evilgrin:
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:30 AM
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2. force feed? wtf!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:33 AM
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4. They shove a tube down their throat and pump food into them
until they are so fat they can't walk.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:32 AM
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3. This is one of the cruelest things done to an animal to get food
I hate nanny state laws so I don't know if I would support this. But damn, this is just downright evil. http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/foie-gras.aspx
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 12:21 PM
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6. This is one of the few that I do support.
I have no problems with people eating the duck livers but do have a problem with the way that foie gras is "produced". I have a problem with the cruelty of it all.

I don't even like buying meat from the grocery store anymore. I'm lucky enough to live in a rural enough area that I can purchase directly from local farmers who treat their animals more humane (and I can visit the farm for the proof!) I also find that buying in bulk from the farmer actually gets me a discount and makes it all cheaper than grocery prices. I wish others had that option more readily available.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 12:33 PM
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8. Jealous here.
I have to drive an drive and drive to buy meat from a farmer.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 12:42 PM
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9. How far are you driving?
You're not too far from me. There's a lovely farm just a few miles up the road from me that sells beef and raw milk, if you're interested.

http://www.breezy-hill-farm.com/ They deliver beef within a one hundred mile radius. I'm pretty sure you'd be within that radius.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 12:43 PM
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10. Great!
Thanks! :hi:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 12:59 PM
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11. Not a problem.
If you make the trip out there be sure to drive a few miles closer to Warrensburg and visit a few other places. Buckeye Acres is always popular and I've purchased quite a bit from them over the years. http://www.buckeye-acres.com/

I've also heard some great things about Peacock Farms in Higginsville. If you make the drive down this way you might as well make the drive 15 miles north to see it too. http://www.peacockfarmsmo.com/
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DeschutesRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 03:08 PM
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13. We now raise our own beef, for the same reasons
Been doing that for quite a few years now. They live in a herd, with the bull, and never spend a day in a pen. They are slaughtered here as well, so they are not trucked somewhere else for that.

If I ever can't do it anymore, I'm going to buy from neighbors who sell their beef where I can know how it is raised. I can't even stomach beef from the store, not knowing what is done at feedlots, nor can I stand the taste of it since we've raised our own.

Have no problem with california banning such a thing with ducks.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 10:07 PM
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16. I hate the thought of dining out at fast food places,
knowing that the food is inferior and subpar at best. I know that the animals are treated poorly and that the produce is harvested using what is basically slave labor. I prefer to support as much local business as possible and that includes my local farmers. At least I can see how they raise their product and I know what's involved.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 12:20 PM
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5. we banned it in chicago and the sponsor of the law almost
lost his seat. it passed the city council 48-1, yet a couple of chefs made it a laughing stock. and came after the sponsor, my alderman. they got some help from a guy named david herro, one of the swift boat funders. he barely scraped by in that election.
the law was later repealed.

mark my word, the thugs will hang this around people's necks and keep it there till it rots off
.

but i will say that there is a difference between force feeding and tube feeding. tube feeding is not cruel. lots of birds are tube fed, especially as babies. it does not bother them. geese especially do not really mind. they have no gag reflex, and of course, love food. they line up when they see the food.

over feeding them till they can't walk is another matter.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 12:23 PM
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7. That is great news! I once got a restaurant to remove it from the menu...
it was my small victory. The restaurant is called Haven, here in Houston ( www.havenhouston.com ), and their concept is sustainability, supporting local growers, environmental awareness, etc. I just didn't understand how they could have foie gras on their menu when it didn't fit with all the wonderful things they were doing. So I emailed the chef/part-owner, and he personally responded to me about it and said he brought my email to the board meeting and said I was right; they should remove it from the menu.

I was so excited that he listened, agreed, and took action based on one email from me.

He said he felt the same and took the opportunity to show that others felt that way too, to convince the board to let him remove it.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 02:09 PM
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12. GOOD!! nt
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 03:14 PM
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14. Fantastic news.
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zippytheplatypus Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 08:19 PM
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15. speaking as a platypus..
If ducks weren't cute none of you would care at all. I'm a platypus, I'm hideous & don't make any sense as a mammal and none of you care if I get force fed or bashed with a hammer. The only reason you don't do that to me is because I taste bad. You people are either carnivores or you're not. I tried foie gras once, it was awesome but its pure fat. You can be carnivores, just admit you kill animals much cuter than me and cook em up & eat em all day everyday. That Big Mac used to have a face until you blew it away with a shotgun and processed it almost out if existence. Just admit what you really do. I admit I eat bugs & worms & whatever other slow stupid stuff crawls on the ground that I can find easily. Not that bad really, especially with a nice Chianti.. now if you'll excuse me I need to guard my eggs from those damn birds. I hate ducks, eat some more of them & keep them away from my stuff..
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 10:13 PM
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17. Actually, the reason you don't get force fed anything....
and used as a food is because you have that nasty, poisonous, deadly venom filled stinger thingy. Not to mention you are notoriously ill tempered.
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zippytheplatypus Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 10:43 PM
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18. and dont you forget it..
nt
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winstars Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 10:58 PM
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19. Glad about this too!! Alternative method: none was found...
So I guess the sternly worded letter to the ducks did not work???
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:02 PM
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20. Would it count as forced feeding if they just give the ducks...
...a television and lots of junk food?
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