I didn't watch the debate. What was the "Let him die" moment I missed?

[WilliamPitt]

Thanks for the explanation. I'm seeing threads about it, but can't put the complete picture together.

[sakabatou]

1. Here ya go

http://www.americablog.com/2011/09/tea-party-crowd-about-sick-man-without.html

[xchrom]

2. ron paul answering a question about how it's the sole responsibility of

the individual to make sure they are insured -- blitzer asks about the hypothetical 30 year old -- and should he be allowed to die -- and the audience chimes in w/ 'YES'.

[stellanoir]

3. Here ya go . . .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/12/tea-party-debate-health-care_n_959354.html

Grayson's response was priceless also. I'll fetch a link shortly.

[Frosty1]

15. Grayson's response...

"My speech was about the fact I had been listening to the Republicans for months, and they literally had no plan to help all those millions of people who can’t see a doctor when they’re sick. So I said, in sort of a wry manner, that their plan was "don’t get sick." All I really wanted to do was just call attention to the stark absence of a Republican plan. But Fox, trying to take the heat off Joe Wilson and Sarah Palin I guess, transmogrified that into a charge that Republicans want to kill people.
What you saw tonight is something much more sinister than not having a healthcare plan. It's sadism, pure and simple. It's the same impulse that led people in the Coliseum to cheer when the lions ate the Christians. And that seems to be where we are heading -- bread and circuses, without the bread. The world that Hobbes wrote about -- "the war of all against all."

[anneboleyn]

20. Great post. "It's sadism, pure and simple."

This sickening incident shows the Tea Party's outright sadism concerning the disabled or poor or even those in need of temporary help. (Real pro-life, aren't they?) It makes me sick to think we share a country with these people, these so-called patriots who show so little concern for their fellow Americans. "Let em die" they scream, staring at the circus.

[brooklynite]

4. Discussion with Ron Paul on Health Care...

(Paul does not feel there should be a mandate to buy insurance, and needless to say doesn't support Governmnent-provided health care). Moderator asked: if someone decided not to buy insurance and got seriously sick, "should society just let him die?" -- Audience response "Yeah!"

Paul agreed, somewhat more diplomatically.

[WilliamPitt]

5. Thanks, everyone.

First cheering executions, and now this.

:puke:

[coalition_unwilling]

7. Be sure and check out Grayson's take on the audience response ("sadism"). Grayson

does not get deep into that analysis, but his characterization seems more apt, the deeper one goes.

To wit, these are the same folks who thought and said that the folks left behind in New Orleans in advance of Katrina 'deserved' their fate because they had not heeded warnings to evacuate. How can you argue someone out of a belief that is, at root, 'sadism' and little more?

On edit: Grayson actually does elaborate somewhat on his 'sadism' comment by saying we seem headed for a Hobbesian society of "all against all". One of the more perceptive takes on the current crop of Repukes, imho.

[G_j]

9. horrible.. it's frightening to see these people (?) legitimized by the media. nt

[SpiralHawk]

12. ...Hmmm...watching the Pats-Dolphins intead of the RepubliWanker deebate, were we?

OK.

That sounds like a wise decision...

[WilliamPitt]

14. It was indeed.

:)

[RockaFowler]

6. Shouldn't Ron Paul give up his Government Healthcare??

He should put his money where his mouth is.

I really can't stand any of them. I hope they all get Gonorrhea

[Cassandra]

10. You don't want them to have gonorrhea..

if they are screwing us.

[Zywiec]

16. Why would he do that?

Does he think no one should have insurance?

In his response to Blitzer last night he even recommended the imaginary 30 year old have a major health policy.

Not sure I understand.

:shrug:

[SammyWinstonJack]

21. Somehow, that is different.

:shrug: F'n hypocrites, the lot of them!

[SammyWinstonJack]

22. Somehow, that is different.

:shrug: F'n hypocrites, the lot of them!

[MrScorpio]

8. I'm glad that I watch football instead. At least the rabid fans at the game were more compassionate

We're all doomed if they win.

[Modern_Matthew]

11. It's being a bit exaggerated, but still troubling nonetheless...

I was just expecting thunderous applause and hundreds of people chanting: "Let him die" like the "USA! USA! USA!" chants that go on...

But it was two or three idiots in the crowd.

[Loge23]

13. Blitzer framed it as the guy was self-sufficient.

The hypothetical victim was able to purchase his own insurance according to the scenario by Blitzer, but chose not to.
That set up Paul's usual libertarian rant about choice.
Not that being able to purchase insurance or not would have made a difference to some in the crowd, but it is an important qualifier here - and it was one aptly addressed by the President's plan.

[Kingofalldems]

17. Unreccers are here

[WilliamPitt]

18. Who cares.

Everyone needs a hobby, I guess.

[pipi_k]

19. Miami never knew what hit 'em...

I didn't watch the debate either.... ;)

[greytdemocrat]

23. Paul & his followers are nuts. n/t