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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 07:34 PM
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What a horrible way to commit suicide...
:wow:

YORKTOWN, Va. -- A Chicago man who quickly accelerated in a sport utility vehicle with a cable around his neck decapitated himself after a domestic dispute.
A sheriff's deputy responding to a call of a domestic disturbance Tuesday was taking a statement from the man's ex-wife when another deputy driving by noticed an SUV pulling a utility trailer that was on fire, York-Poquoson Sheriff Danny Diggs told The Associated Press.
Authorities said the man started the trailer fire.
A firefighter noticed a cable around the man's neck that was attached to a tree. When deputies tried to get the man to exit the SUV, he accelerated and was pulled from the vehicle and decapitated, authorities told the AP. The SUV kept going for about 150 yards.

Read more: http://www.wisn.com/news/29048994/detail.html#ixzz1XslZcO2l
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sadbear Donating Member (799 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 07:38 PM
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1. I wonder how long he planned this
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 09:10 PM
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20. maximum effect on the wife. that is one huge grudge.
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Whats_Happening Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 04:39 AM
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31. We know nothing. Don't assume he's the bad guy --
just as likely, she broke his heart.

After all, he's killing himself, not her, so we don't have to automatically assign him to black-hattery.
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 08:14 AM
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34. Actually, we know a lot because of how he decided to kill himself
He made sure his suicide was pretty spectacular and gruesome. That means he designed it to cause maximum pain to the survivors.

That doesn't make him the good guy.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 07:38 PM
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2. God !
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 07:39 PM
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3. Has the really weird sh** anymore increased, or do we just hear about it more
easily with the Internet, etc. It just seems the 'crazy stuff' meter is way off the scale anymore.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 08:17 PM
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13. 5 to 10 yrs ago, I would have said, "it was the coverage." no longer.
People are depressed, down, and desperate. When you have nothing left to lose, things go really crazy.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 08:20 PM
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14. Yes, agree, quite true. n/t
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 09:54 PM
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22. I really wish it wasn't.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 10:03 PM
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23. I'm surprised and perplexed at the hatefulness that has taken hold in
America. I know, of course, there were always differences, but there seemed to often be a middle ground sometimes even with conflicting groups.

...but today, there is so much hatefulness. It seems it's more than the economy, it's become a way of life for many IMO.

I guess it's a combination of things driving it, the hate element of MSM, RW religion, political extremes ...

I guess I need to go search for some sociological studies on it ... but I have to admit I'm a bit perplexed at how it has caught on and the aberrant group behavior.

Any thoughts on this, please let me know.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 07:41 PM
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4. Actually that is a fast way
Of all the suicides...as far as the person is concerned, is the fastest and cleanest.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 07:50 PM
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6. Cleanest?
With his head off spewing blood? I agree re fastest.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 07:52 PM
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7. Clean as in killing efficiently without chances for mangling.
But it ends up ruining the interior of the car. Of course having the driver die at a high speed is likely to total the car as well.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 04:18 AM
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27. You have me laughing at a serious matter
:D
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 08:09 PM
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11. Not for the ones cleaning the mess
But for the person absolutely.
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Whats_Happening Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 04:42 AM
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32. Relatively fast, but there is that sticky issue of the few seconds after decapitation --
when, as much considered opinion believes, you end up as a fully-conscious severed head without a body before final oblivion. Those few seconds have got to be majorly disconcerting.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 07:45 PM
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5. When you think about it, it's not like there's a lot of really good ways.
Anything involving blades is nasty. Hanging is easy to screw up, and then either you're choking slowly or you're just badly injured. Drugs are probably best, but hard to come by.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 08:15 PM
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12. Jack Kevorkian had a pretty good system.
And I watched a show on capital punishment methods that suggested that gradually replacing oxygen with nitrogen in your air supply is a great way to go - you basically giggle while you croak.

There are some very good ways to kill yourself, we just aren't supposed to talk about them because if we did well everyone might just decide to exit on their own terms, and we can't have that.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 08:53 PM
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17. Those are hardly easy to execute, though.
For that matter, one good syringe filled with a big OD of morphine would probably be a fairly painless way to go. But without a doctor's access to drugs and supplies, it's not nearly that easy.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 08:00 PM
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8. He set his utility trailer on fire behind his SUV & then de-capitated himself.
So . . . wow.

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daleanime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 08:04 PM
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9. In case it needs to be said....
if even a little part of you responds to this story with 'yea, that's the way to do it'. Please get some help now. You are needed.:hug:
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 08:27 PM
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15. I understand where you're coming from.
However, this is at least one step up from the all-too-common murder-suicide. That is, if the man felt someone had to die, at least he didn't take the violence to someone else, like his ex wife. In the larger sense, no, that's not 'the way to do it'.

Thanks.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 04:34 AM
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30. Here's what stopped me, way back in the day:
Do you want the worst, most painful, most horrible moment of your life to be the last?
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pnwest Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 08:29 PM
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16. every method of suicide is horrible. period. n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 08:55 PM
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18. but some leave a greater mess to clean up.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 04:33 AM
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29. The method doesn't matter, the emotional mess is harder to pick up
than any bloody method a person could devise. One could say they're even creating jobs by doing it in a messy way, requiring hiring someone to clean it up. But what really needs to be done is to make help available for them in the first place. Not that everyone will take it, but it needs to be there.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 09:07 PM
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19. Suicide always sucks....
Especially over a domestic dispute. Never worth it.

What I feel badly about is the amount of emotional suffering that caused this.

I know there have been times in my past where the emotional pain over a domestic dispute or breakup was so bad that being run over by a truck probably wouldn't have felt as horrible. But people hardly ever really want to die...they just want the pain to go away.

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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 10:03 PM
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24. No, suicide does not always suck. If you are terminally & painfully dying
it is likely a smart and personal choice that should not be condemned by others.

In other situations I always remember what Ann Landers said about suicide: it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 10:16 PM
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25. What Cher said has "always" stuck in my mind...
""This ain't no dress rehearsal," saying that we only have one life to live, one very short run, and then it's over -- there are no do-overs."

http://www.callisto.fm/#/podcasts/by/feastoffun/in/Feast-of-Fun/episode/FOF-1355-This-Aint-No-Dress-Rehearsal-040511/

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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 08:40 AM
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35. And when you are sick & dying & in pain, it is perfectly ok if you choose to end your life.
In that case suicide is a compassionate release, so it is not "always" bad.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 08:46 AM
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36. Yep! n/t
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 09:02 AM
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38. And I would agree, but
like I said above, there will almost always be someone left behind for whom the suicide sucked.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 09:01 AM
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37. Let me clarify...
Suicide always sucks for somebody

Even if it doesn't suck for the person who is terminally ill, it still does suck very much for the people left behind. People who, maybe due to denial, might believe that if only their loved one had waited a little while longer, a cure might have been found.

It sucks very much for them.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 09:13 AM
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39. Life, too, always sucks for somebody. n/t
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 09:18 AM
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40. Yes, it does. n/t
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 09:28 PM
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21. I know of another case of this method


A young man was disfellowshiped from his Jehovahs Witness congregation (and therefor from his friends and family) went to a Kingdom Hall, tied a rope to a porch pillar, and killed himself this exact same way.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 10:17 PM
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26. What a shame. So sad. n/t
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 04:29 AM
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28. Those Jehovah's Witnesses love the shunning
In high school I knew a girl who had a very bad time of it after being date-raped by someone else in her church. She was shunned, creating serious problems at home as her family was supposed to be more or less shunning her as well. And the boy who raped her? Well, he said he was sorry and was praised as an example of righteousness and God's forgiveness and blah blah blah :puke:

This girl of course ended up running away from home, and being a close friend of hers, I was the one having very uncomfortable conversations with her father afterward. As Ana Kasparian would say, drams.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 08:13 AM
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33. I was raised in it. Your story rings true.
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