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ohiosmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:13 PM Original message |
Vegan couple will serve life sentences for starving baby to death, court rules |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. Oy gevalt. FEED THE BABY!!!! |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I guess breast milk is an animal product. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. No, vegans do not believe that. |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Or too dumb to read the breast n/t |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
51. ! |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. Good. They deserve it. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. My kid's been vegan since he was a baby. |
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xmas74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Agreed. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Apparently they weren't feeding the baby much of anything, |
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xmas74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I want to gag just thinking about it! |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. maybe they didn't realize there was much difference between soy milk and soy formula |
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xmas74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 11:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. I remember how, after having my child, |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 06:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
68. I think it's awesome that you raised your son vegan. I read about Pres. Clinton "converting." Sure |
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idiotgardener (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. I'm sorry, you are WRONG. |
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Drahthaardogs (482 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
57. How does a vegan baby eat "a variety of foods"? |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Until they're four months or so they get breastmilk exclusively, |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. This baby died at 6 weeks... |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 06:37 PM Response to Reply #63 |
73. That point's been made. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-15-11 10:01 AM Response to Reply #73 |
80. Well tutt and cluck... |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 12:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
43. Please do list the "risks" you suggest in your post. |
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tgal (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 05:52 PM Response to Reply #43 |
59. Thank you flvegan |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #43 |
64. Babies need animal milk... human animal milk... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
4. They deserve the harsh sentence. This is horrific. nt |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. Can't people just allow their children to live long enough to grow up |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Babies can absolutely thrive on a vegan diet. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. The American Dietetic Assn. says otherwise. |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 11:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. I stand corrected |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 11:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Feeding a baby isn't really any more complicated for a vegan family. |
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The Genealogist (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
53. "Well-planned" being the key word... |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. That's the point I've been making all over this thread. |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
7. Did they spend the rest of their money on meth? |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
9. that's about neglect, not veganism |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. +1 n/t |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 11:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
31. Neglect INSPIRED by veganism. n/t |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 11:57 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Bullshit. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 12:00 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Deleted message |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. I don't see that |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 12:14 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. Loud noises, stating nothing. What else you got? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-15-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
83. Post hoc ergo prompter hoc...? n/t |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
54. Very true...but the 'vegan' in the headline brings in all the mouse clicks |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-15-11 07:02 AM Response to Reply #9 |
79. Thanks! |
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hugo_from_TN (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
12. This has nothing to do with veganism |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
14. Despicable. nt |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
19. NYT: "Death by Veganism" (from a former vegan) |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. That article is discredited all over the damned internets and that woman is a crank. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 11:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. Nina Planck? Really? |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-15-11 06:58 AM Response to Reply #19 |
78. I didn't know vegan breast milk was lacking a nutrient |
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m1049 (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
23. They should be punished but... |
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surrealAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
75. I agree. |
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diane in sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
26. There is no traditional diet in the world that is vegan, even vegetarian diets, as in India |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 11:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. All sorts of things aren't traditional. |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
28. I believe we established the last time this dumb story came up that Veganism had nothing to do with |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
29. OMG!!! VEGAN killers kill their baby completely to death!!!! Vegan. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 11:55 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. LMAO! |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 11:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Suffering fools gladly? I can't do it. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 11:55 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Vegan diets are totally inappropriate for children. Which is why mine is such a waif. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 12:13 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. All vegans are, you silly thing. |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
35. UNREC'd for the insinuation that vegan = starving babies |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 12:01 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Half my family is vegan and all think MILK is for BABIES |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
44. Damn but this thread got really quiet pretty quickly. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 01:32 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. You only show up if there's something to fight about. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 01:38 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Is that so? |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 01:42 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. That's easy to say, nobody implied that you were a criminal child abuser. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. I don't understand, "He'll forgive me" meaning, flvegan? |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. No, we're a couple. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Okay, Cool then. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 01:38 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. It's because vegancore has BROUGHT THE PAIN, homie. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 01:40 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. LOL! |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 01:41 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I thought you'd get a kick out of that. |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
56. Two thoughts |
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leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
62. Good. People can indulge whatever dipshit kookery they like but don't let the BS hurt the kids. n/t |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #62 |
72. Do you believe that |
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leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-15-11 06:40 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. I don't know. Why don't you ask the baby? n/t |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-15-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. That seems to be a rather evasive response. |
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idiotgardener (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-15-11 12:09 AM Response to Reply #62 |
76. And apparently people can post whatever dipshit kookery they want no matter how incorrect. |
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TNLib (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
65. They lived in Buckhead they had money. |
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Broderick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
66. This is being blamed on veganism |
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demmiblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
67. Good! However, almost all starvation deaths are caused by omnivores. n/t |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
69. Five bucks says they're in a weird cult |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
70. Du and Vegans |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-15-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #70 |
86. I know it seems like it should be shocking that our non-meat diet choice |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
71. The problem wasn't that they were vegan |
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Imajika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
74. Being vegans had nothing to do with the baby dying... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-15-11 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
81. The stupid, it BURNS!!! |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-15-11 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
82. In 2009, 1,676 American children died of abuse and neglect |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-15-11 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
85. infants being starved by a meat-eating couple? |
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