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Wed Sep-14-11 12:13 AM
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Remember when a fire department watched a house burn down? |
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39516346/ns/us_news-life/t/no-pay-no-spray-firefighters-let-home-burn/The story took over DU for a number of days. There were a lot of people on both sides of that debate, I remember. How big is the step from letting a fire destroy someone's house for want of a $75 fee and not treating someone's medical problem for want of health insurance?
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Wed Sep-14-11 12:15 AM
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1. houses, much like corporations, |
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Wed Sep-14-11 12:16 AM
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A few years ago when my mom needed gall bladder surgery, she was waiting on some assistance to get approved...
She had a paper stating she was going to receive the assistance, but that particular doctor's office did not accept it. It wasn't enough for them.
The secretary told her she had waited a long time already and that a few more days wouldn't hurt her.
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Wed Sep-14-11 12:17 AM
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3. Big difference. A human life is at stake. |
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Wed Sep-14-11 12:21 AM
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4. And no human life is at stake when there's a house fire? |
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Wed Sep-14-11 12:22 AM
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5. That department had a rule that if there was a life at stake they'd put it out anyway. |
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Wed Sep-14-11 03:55 AM
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10. And they always know ahead of time, of course. |
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Wed Sep-14-11 09:15 AM
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18. Yes, they did. They would ask the person calling. |
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Thu Sep-15-11 01:18 AM
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20. Who replies "this house up at the corner of the block is on fire. I can't see any more from here." |
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Thu Sep-15-11 01:28 AM
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21. Is that what happened in the incident the OP is referring to? |
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Wed Sep-14-11 12:24 AM
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Wed Sep-14-11 12:23 AM
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6. Empathy is a cruel mistress for people. |
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Some folks get it, most don't.
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Wed Sep-14-11 12:25 AM
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8. Another story from the "Fuck you, I have mine" file that the M$M forgot.... |
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.....and the Democratic party has decided they are too far above to use as a hammer to drive the point home.
The death cheers Monday will go right in the same basket by week's end.
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Wed Sep-14-11 12:36 AM
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9. Suppose the fire department lost the check or otherwise failed to record one had paid the fee? |
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Cue the Teabaggers shouting, "Let it burn!"
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Wed Sep-14-11 04:02 AM
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11. Interesting that you didn't use the example of the man drowning in front of rescue crews.. |
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http://californiaexaminer.net/2011/06/02/police-and-fire-crews-watch-man-drown-himself/That one seemed to be a lot less controversial here on DU, indeed I recall at least one poster who was utterly outraged about the house burning incident but thought letting someone drown was OK.
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Wed Sep-14-11 06:42 AM
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12. huge. difference between a person and thing. really? you cant see the difference |
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or significance of the difference?
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Wed Sep-14-11 07:00 AM
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15. But they are all of the same conceptual ilk |
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Can you not see the trend?
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Wed Sep-14-11 07:24 AM
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17. i dont think so at all. would be like gay marriages, marriages to dogs. |
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material THING. PEOPLE.
two different animals.
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Wed Sep-14-11 06:45 AM
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13. People are turned away for lack of insurance now |
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The step has been taken. Remember the Governor of Arizona turning people away who need transplants? Already happening.
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Wed Sep-14-11 06:48 AM
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14. It wasn't want of $75. It was REFUSAL to pay. |
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Look up the whole story on that one.
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Wed Sep-14-11 07:04 AM
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16. 22% of the NBC poll said too bad let it burn he didn't pay.... |
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sounds like some of the let'em die people .
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Wed Sep-14-11 10:23 AM
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19. Good post. These stories need to be recalled together, along with |
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refusal to approve disaster funding in the absence of some ransom to the rich.
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