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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 01:54 PM
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What Eisenhower Got Wrong
Fifty years ago this Monday, President Dwight Eisenhower gave a farewell address in which he famously warned of the dangers of influence on our government by the "military industrial complex." Our current Secretary of War, Robert Gates, has proposed to retire this year and has recommended that his successors stop increasing the military budget. But Eisenhower didn't just bring this up on his way out the door. It was seven years earlier that he had remarked:

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed 8,000 people."

But pulling these quotes out of context, as we like to do, misses the reprehensible context of the speeches in which they originated. It would be a similar act of distortion to quote President Barack Obama's Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech and leave out everything but that peaceful opening line,

"Your Majesties, Your Royal Highnesses, Distinguished Members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, citizens of America, and citizens of the world:"

Obama went on to argue the necessity of war. And that is what Eisenhower did in his farewell address. He argued against unlimited militarization while arguing for something just short of it. He proposed disarmament while suggesting that we'd really better not do it. These lines are less well remembered:

"We face a hostile ideology, global in scope, atheistic in character, ruthless in purpose, and insidious in method. Unhappily, the danger it poses promises to be of indefinite duration."

How does one dismantle the military industrial complex in the face of a ruthless, atheistic ideology? Of course, Eisenhower did not do so. He refrained from some of the excesses, in both war funding and war lying, of his successors. He dug our country into a pointless war on Vietnam, but not to the extent of his successors. And when his immediate successor resisted the military machine more than Eisenhower had, a single bullet struck him multiple times in Dallas.

If we set aside for a moment the pressing question for all presidents of whether Eisenhower was a devil or a saint, we can appreciate the value of having a president say anything worthwhile. But a half century later, we should be able to bring ourselves to also recognize what ideally should have been said -- and was being said by others.

In the same speech in which Eisenhower spoke of the theft from those who hunger, he claimed eternal innocence for the United States in foreign affairs. The United States had never been an aggressor; that was the Soviet Union's role. The United States relied on "trust and mutual aid" while the USSR relied on "force: huge armies, subversion, rule of neighbor nations." Why did we have to steal from the hungry in order to build weapons? Eisenhower had the answer:

"The amassing of Soviet power alerted free nations to a new danger of aggression. It compelled them in self-defense to spend unprecedented money and energy for armaments."

Eisenhower blamed the Soviet Union for "aggression in Korea and southeast Asia." We know that to have constituted a pair of super-destructive lies. The point is not that Eisenhower wasn't relatively responsible, when compared with his predecessors and successors. But he maintained the same set of lies that allowed for the military industrial complex to grow into something today that probably didn't penetrate his worst nightmares.

Fifty years later it has come to look likely that militarized global empire cannot be maintained at a limited level that permits democracy at home. This is an all or nothing endeavor that requires a radical solution. We cannot both live and breathe fear of the evil now-Muslim terrorist ideology and halt nuclear proliferation. We cannot pretend our wars have been defensive and humanitarian while at the same time shutting down bases around the globe. We cannot imagine foreigners to be subhuman beasts and simultaneously pursue disarmament. In 1959, A.J. Muste said:

"I am not impressed . . . with the struggle that goes on periodically between the White House and Congressional committees over whether a balanced budget or national security is of first importance. These are not struggles between pacifists and militarists, people who want or do not want 'genuine negotiation.' And however these controversies come out, the military budget will be of astronomical proportions for 'peacetime'."

Muste cited C. Wright Mills and George F. Kennan in arguing for unilateral disarmament and adoption of a very different approach to the world. A half century later, that idea has less respect than ever, but the dominant idea is taking us off a cliff. The war machine is stronger than ever, the war propaganda slicker, the dangers heightened. Continuing down this course is not survivable in terms of proliferation or blowback, environmental destruction or loss of democratic representation, or in simple economic terms. This week a congress member proposed a bill to allow his colleagues to come armed to work, on the grounds that they could not safely walk home on Capitol Hill.

Tinkering with a self-destructive system will not save us. We need what Martin Luther King, Jr., whose holiday is also celebrated on Monday, called a revaluation of values. We need to outgrow the idea that there can be a good or just war any more than there can be a good slavery or a just rape. We need to confront the root of the militaristic ideology that even Eisenhower pushed on us: the lies about World War II. Yes, Franklin Roosevelt campaigned for office promising to stay out of a war he was already working to maneuver the United States into, and for all the wrong reasons, and he lied about German attacks and plans for conquest, and he lied about Pearl Harbor.

For a truly painful experience, read what FDR and others knew. Then read the endless saga of investigations and coverups.

That FDR pursued very good policies domestically is not altered by what he did abroad. If we are looking for people to model our lives after, they should not be elected officials.

They should be people like Martin Luther King, Jr.

Here is someone doing that.

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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 02:06 PM
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1. Excellent. We are now back to adoration of the military and violence as solutions.
We are in the business of losing wars and calling them "necessary" for the sake of business.
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norske Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 02:11 PM
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2. Well done
Well done. American presidents serve to increase the profitability of the corporate elite. If some can also find a way to serve the public interests....that is a good thing albeit rare. The MIC is simply the most efficient instrument in facilitating the transfer of wealth from the working class and the poor to those at the top.

Making the world safe for maximum corporate pillage....on the backs of the poor, the dead and the dying.....US imperialism 101.

The US has become a giant Ponzi scheme...living beyond its means while those in other nations exist in squalor and servitude. It can't continue much longer before it implodes. Welcome to inverted totalitarianism/neo feudalism.
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riverbendviewgal Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 02:33 PM
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3. It seems he has hit on the current topic of working together
rather than fighting.

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/dwightdeisenhowerfarewell.html

"Disarmament, with mutual honor and confidence, is a continuing imperative. Together we must learn how to compose differences, not with arms, but with intellect and decent purpose. Because this need is so sharp and apparent, I confess that I lay down my official responsibilities in this field with a definite sense of disappointment. As one who has witnessed the horror and the lingering sadness of war, as one who knows that another war could utterly destroy this civilization which has been so slowly and painfully built over thousands of years, I wish I could say tonight that a lasting peace is in sight."
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 02:37 PM
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4. Highly recommended. k&r n/t
-Laelth
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 02:43 PM
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5. K & R for Change!!!
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 02:59 PM
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6. We have always been at war with Eastasia. nt
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 03:08 PM
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7. All very true. "Beware the MIC, I should know because that spells ME."
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 03:29 PM
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8. One asshole asked me how do I isolate myself from contributing to the military.
He, she, it (agent Mike) said this in response to my post about being against military related jobs/corporation. He said that there's no way to isolate myself from contributing in some way to the MIC. I told the asshole that according to his reasoning that I'd have to move out of the country in order to protest the MIC without being complicit in its support. So I guess I can't say anything bad about the MIC without being a hypocrite. Ya know what? FUCK THAT SHIT! I loath the MIC and the (offensive) military and all its games and murders ...hiding the truth in the name of national security. FUCK YOU! Yes I agree with what Eisenhower said and what Einstein said ...and many others. I defer to those I deem to be wiser than I ...and that isn't this fucked up government and its war mongers and profiteers.

That worst outcrop of herd life, the military system, which I abhor . . . This plague-spot of civilization ought to be abolished with all possible speed. Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism–how passionately I hate them! – Albert Einstein

Become an internationalist and learn to respect all life. Make war on machines. And in particular the sterile machines of corporate death and the robots that guard them. -Abbie Hoffman

Blind obedience to authority is the enemy of the truth. - Albert Einstein

Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy. - Henry Kissinger

“My country right or wrong” is a thing that no patriot would think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying, “My mother drunk or sober.” – G. K. Chesterton

The standardization of mass-production carries with it a tendency to standardize a mass-mind, producing a willing conformity, not merely to common ways of living, but to common ways of thinking and common valuations. The worst defect of patriotism is its tendency to foster and impose this common mind, and so to stifle the innumerable germs of liberty. – J.A. Hobson

Naturally the common people don’t want war . . . Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders . . . All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism. – Hermann Goering.

I got a lot more quotes saved ...and accumulating more all the time.


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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 08:21 PM
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16. I was that asshole and of course you are being very selective in
your "memory" of the posts. You said people should quit their jobs if they were working for the MIC. I said we all contribute to the MIC in some way so if that was the solution we would all quit our jobs. I never said not to protest. I said we are all part of the machine as it is now constituted. I said the War budget must be reduced and severely. You do seem to have a lot of quotes but you have forgotten your own.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 09:44 PM
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19. There's a big difference
There's a pretty substantial difference between, say, growing organic produce and not making enough money to pay taxes, and making $100k a year engineering the explosives for new weapons.

Some people's jobs contribute a hell of a lot more to the MIC than others. Anyone working for an insurance company, in any capacity, is contributing more to our current health care crisis than I am, or have in any job I've ever held.

I think it a perfectly reasonable statement that anyone working DIRECTLY for the MIC quit their job - or in less abstract terms, if what you're doing isn't something that you can do for your neighbors, that benefits them directly without harming others directly, then you should look into doing something else. You needn't seek perfection, just get out of the worst jobs into better ones, even if they pay less. I'm currently in college, and I see way too many young people working desperately to NOT THINK ABOUT what their potential employers might be doing in the big picture, because thinking about that isn't compatible with getting that high-status, well-paying job once they graduate.

If you are manufacturing, shipping, managing, ordering, specifying, etc. tools to kill people, then you are working to murder people. Nothing terribly complicated about it. If you are farming and the army comes by and steals a third of your grain to feed themselves, it's a long stretch to say 'you are supporting the army'. If you're a machinist, or an accountant, you have more complicated decisions to make.

But there will always be Wernher Von Brauns to either plead personal cowardice or consciously evoke fear in others, depending on what works, to support their own participation in mass slaughter. I think his point is just that the rest of us need to recognize them for what they are.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 10:54 PM
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20. I am not going to tell anyone to quit their jobs, especially in this economy.
What about President Obama? Should he quit his job? He is CIC -- the head of it all. If not, why should the steelworker in a steel mill making steel for tanks quit his job and the man who sends drones all over the world not quit his? If you are a farmworker some of the food goes to our military. The military would stop cold without food. Should farmworkers quit their jobs or be shunned by their betters who of course contribute nothing to the MIC? The military is not "stealing" any food. They pay for it just like anybody else. Where is the line drawn when you go down this road?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 03:46 PM
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9. let the Air Force hold a few bake sales to buy its bombers!!!
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 03:49 PM
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10. And when his immediate successor resisted the military machine more than Eisenhower had,..

...a single bullet struck him multiple times in Dallas.":rofl:

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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 03:57 PM
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11. Which German attacks and plans for conquest
did FDR lie about?
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 05:22 PM
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12. short answer
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 07:52 PM
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15. That's a great site.
But it doesn't address my question. I've know for a long time that there was some funny business regarding the Pearl Harbor attacks, but I am unaware of any lies or for any need for lies to have been promulgated about the Third Reich. So, please just go ahead an tell me in your words.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 08:29 PM
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17. If you want to know the answers to your questions you'll have to buy his book
I'm sure the answers are all in there...for a mere $9.99*


(*plus Shipping & Handling)

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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 09:22 PM
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18. No thanks
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rtassi Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 06:54 PM
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13. "a single bullet struck him multiple times in Dallas" n/t
Edited on Thu Jan-13-11 06:56 PM by rtassi
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 07:02 PM
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14. Ike was the last truly great democratic president.
And yes, I know there was an (R) after his name.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:11 AM
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21. Remembering Eugene McCarthy
When he was a freshman congressman shortly after WW II, McCarthy noticed the Department of War morphed into the Defense Department. The language itself suggests all we need to know. War was fully funded only in a time of declared war (quaint by current standards). Defense is permanent.
The fear and loathing we've been fed regarding threats, real or imagined, has made us all dupes necessary to fund the biggest robbery in history. For all the years of the Cold War we were told if we didn't spend all our resources on defense we'd be attacked by the nuclear armed Soviets or worse we'd be speaking Russian.
In essence, the defense propaganda machine pointed perceived missiles at or heads with the explicit purpose of separating tax paying citizens from resources that could have and should have been used to raise living standards for the vast majority rather than well connected defense contractors who make generous campaign contributions/bribes. Then there was the threat of murderous Vietcong climbing in our bedroom windows at night and killing all the women and children, which is why we "had to fight them over there." We heard the same line of bullshit about terrorists. Naturally no one mentioned domestic terrorists as they're already here, along with the foreign ones. That's the price we pay for an open society. A war on terrorism is as useless as a war on drugs. The idea that a war on a thing will garner some tangible result is flawed thinking and the selling of outright lies.
Therefore, I offer the words of two sage American icons:
"There's money good money to be made
By supplying the army with the tools of the trade."
(Country Joe MacDonald)
"You have to have war so you can have peace."
(G. W. Bush)
One statement is Orwellian while the other could have been made by Jonathan Swift.
That 19 guys armed with box cutters could bankrupt our economy tells me we're being robbed to an extent only imagined in the minds of those headed for Dante's Ninth Circle.
And now for something completely different.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1583adUqSg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2NqfISm9k

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