Did I just hear what I thought I heard?

[Vinca]

I'm in the next room, but I swear I heard Willard Romney utter a long list of bad things Obama has or hasn't done and end it with "and he wants to cut Medicare." It was on Morning Joe. If this was what he said, I'm afraid Mr. Obama will rue the day he ever suggested doing anything but keeping Medicare strong. As many of us predicted.

[DrDan]

1. he is willing to raise the age - which would be tantamount to a cut

[Firebrand Gary]

2. Can you please tell me why?

The Republican party is defending Democratic legislation?

[Bluebear]

4. We handed them the ad. Obama wants to cut Medicare & the GOP will defend it

Stupid.

[dionysus]

24. LOL

:spray:

[Fumesucker]

5. It makes Obama look bad?

And Obama gave them the opportunity to do so?


Not that anyone on DU predicted this or anything you realize.

:shrug:

[Upton]

3. Just wait..

we're going to be seeing Republican commercials next year, running in states with high populations of seniors like Florida, saying just what Romney did...

And Obama has no one but himself to blame..

[mmonk]

6. Exactly. Anyone who doesn't see that coming is fooling themselves.

[nenagh]

7. So a lot of Repub manouvering to get sound bites of Pres Obama saying ...

'small changes to Medicare'...

So Mitt can begin with the 'Obama wants to cut Medicare'... and all will forget Paul Ryan's voucher system?

Edit: just as you say, predicted by many DUers.

[Bluebear]

9. Perzactly.

[KharmaTrain]

8. He's Painted Himself In A Corner...

The smartest guy in the room is becoming too smart by half. While I was for some compromise as that's how our system of government works and works best, but with an opposition that has shown time and time again they won't move an inch, the compromises now look weak and being twisted to make the smart guy look stupid.

The gridlock ensures nothing moves...and the more this administration tries to force the issue, the worse it will get.

[Solomon]

10. You all are real excited about this

aren't you? Sheesh.

[Fumesucker]

11. Some of us have seen it coming since Obama put Medicare/SS on the table...

And most of us think it's going to be a devastating attack on Democrats, because it's essentially true.

[Zax2me]

13. Yea....excited. Seems like it, huh? Are you?

[Claudia Jones]

25. yes and no

The DLC has been attempting to gain full control over the Democratic party and implement their program of Republican lite for years - post-partisanship, competency over ideology, jettisoning the "baggage" of the "special interest groups" - such as for example Labor, teachers, environmentalists - privatization, free trade, partnering with and cooperating with big finance and industry, and pandering and appealing to the conservatives. Obama was hand-picked and groomed to lead this effort. The problem is that he was elected at a time of crisis and the DLC formulas have been like pouring gasoline on a raging fire, the "post-partisan" efforts to appease Republicans have failed, the economic crisis is growing, and the base has been "thrown under the bus." Yet Obama ever could have been elected were there not a concerted PR effort all through the campaign to convince the base that traditional Democratic party constituencies would be represented and traditional Democratic party principles would be honored.

We do not want to see Democrats fail, nor do we want to see the Republicans win, however we blame the DLC and not the base for the revival of the fortunes of the Republicans, and we do want to see the DLC and their agenda fail - for the sake of the party and for the sake of the everyday people in the country.

[Caliman73]

32. I wouldn't say excited

Saddened, continually frustrated, angry, despondent, and worried. Excited implies a feeling of positive anticipation. I don't think anyone here is looking forward to another Republican presidency, but Obama's continuing tack to the right is making it possible.

[SammyWinstonJack]

35. Not really. Do you think Obama is? Excited about this?

It's his baby, these cuts to 'entitlement' programs. He continues to suggest and suggest these cuts.

He owns this.

Hope he is excited about his bi-partisan tactics with repub snakes who want nothing more than to see him fail and fail big.

[JVS]

12. Willard knows that the public wants medicare left alone, and by being the most moderate of...

the repubs is in a good position to capitalize on voters' concerns about that. Obama decided to use his position as a Democrat to pull an "Only Nixon can go to China" and boldly touched the 3rd rail by going after medicare.

[Fumesucker]

14. Touched the third rail?

I disagree, Obama grabbed hold tight with superglue on his hands..

The Republicans will beat on this until Obama hands them a better stick, I shudder to think what that stick might be.

[JVS]

15. I was going to use a bodily function to describe what was done to the 3rd rail, but thought some...

might take offense.

[Fumesucker]

18. You're right, that would have made a remarkably smelly red herring.. n/t

[JVS]

19. You gotta be careful what you say or it will be alerted for the flimsiest of reasons.

Nobody would usually care about saying that bodily function and the third rail, but if it is critical of the administration then suddenly the phrase is incredibly gross and alert worthy.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

16. Sounds just like DU. Why is anyone surprised with what Mittens said?

And coming here to defend Mitt Romney? WOW! That's just amazing!

[Fumesucker]

17. Most of us aren't surprised..

This was roughly as predictable as the Sun coming up tomorrow and indeed was predicted by many right here on DU.

[immoderate]

20. Defend? I see honest play calling.

You need some "home town" bias?

--imm

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

21. The words HONEST and MITT ROMNEY don't belong in the same sentence

HONEST from the #1 flip-flopping liar in politics?

Again, the fact that you defend him tells me all I need to know about where you're at.

[immoderate]

22. He said Obama wants to cut medicare. That's my impression too.

You can't automatically discount everything he says, just like you can't count on what Obama says.

Vigilance! They're all a bunch of motherfuckers.


--imm

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

27. Nowhere has Obama said that he wants to cut Medicare. If you have a direct quote

please post it here. And please do not post heresay. I need to see an *actual* quote, plan or anything direct words from the president HIMSELF.

You won't be able to find it. Know why? Because you can't. Know why? Because he NEVER said it!!!

[immoderate]

36. I can respect "full of shittedness" as much as the next guy, but...

He said it. At least six sources here. Quotation marks abound. Hint: "Adjustments" don't mean increases.
http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/daily-reports/2011/august/09/obama-and-modest-medicare-adjustments.aspx

--imm

[dionysus]

23. it really is reaching for new straws. "i was in the other room, and i swear i heard a republican say

that obama wants to..."

then post said claim here, and generate a 100 post collection of outrage.

:hi:

[Bluebear]

26. Sounds just like you, going off half-cocked

There's no defense of Romney, only that Obama played into their hands putting those programs on the table.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

28. Speaking of going off half-cocked, the ODSers STILL can't find a direct quote

from the president or his advisors that he plans to cut Medicare.

No quote. No plan. No nothing, but half-cocked innuendo and heresay.

No, thank you!

If you cannot provide a direct quote, a plan, or anything concrete, then you cannot possibly accuse me of being a knee-jerk reactionary.

You've got work to do. Good luck! You're gonna need it! :)

[Bluebear]

29. You're in la-la land. This White House floats more trial balloons than NOAA

waiting for him to give you a direct quote? He's not that honest.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

34. Ah, so where do you get your information from, then? If there are no words,

and no plan, just speculation on your part, then it is YOU who are in la la land.

Off to ignore you go.

Bye-Bye!! Hope President Perry treats you well...

[Politicalboi]

30. "and he wants to cut Medicare."

So Obama "wants" to cut Medicare, but the Repukes "WILL" cut Medicare to non-existence. That is what we should be saying.

[Vinca]

33. And you think the 50% dim witted electorate will pay attention enough to know the difference?

The problem is - as I see it - Paul Ryan's giant gift to the Democrats has been returned.

[Poll_Blind]

31. The President should have never been so stupid as to put up SS for cuts.

He shouldn't have the permission, even as the President, to break one of the sacred party planks like that. It has fucked with the "brand" that the Democratic party has represented for as long as I've been alive, at least.

And the ripping into the Democrats for doing it started on the Senate floor not long after with John McCain and Dick Durban sparring.

PB