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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:39 PM
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Are red areas of the country really still red...
Edited on Thu Sep-15-11 09:10 PM by butterfly77
or is this just media spin. With the economy the way it is people are moving around,with foreclosures people are moving around, with storms,floods,fires,tornadoes,hurricanes. people are moving around.


With all of these people moving around and mingling with people they never would have due to unemployment or homelessness why would the people who usually vote republiCON,vote for them when they can plainly see that they don't want to create jobs,no unemployment,no healthcare,etc..Why would they still be vote republiCON???


Can some even vote now since they are homeless,or is that part of the plan? Some are now calling into radio shows telling the hosts they don't know who to believe but,they were once republiCONS.

In their heart of hearts they know that the republiCONS are the problems but they have been brainwashed for so many years to hate the word liberal and socialism they don't even realize they are liberal and they do believe in socialism.

Many are now sitting at home if they have one and see what the republicons are really all about,some are calling in trying to give Obama advice on how to attack the republicons.

Some can't believe they are now in the situation they are in and many of them were TEABAGGERS but won't admit it. The republiCONS are now coming after them and they are scared,firemen,police,nurse,longshormen,auto workers,teachers,and on and on and on...

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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:42 PM
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1. CONned, uninformed, ignorant.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:44 PM
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2. "Why would they still be voting republiCON???"
Because deep down inside people actually aren't very nice, and a political party predicated in appealing to the worst in people begins every election cycle half-a-lap ahead in the race?
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 09:59 PM
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9. Or they think...
the policies or non policies of the republiCONS won't affect them..
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:44 PM
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3. Who knows what's going on under the surface there?
People who live in areas like that tend to go along to get along and mouth the same boilerplate everybody else does to avoid being treated like a freak.

North Dakota and Nebraska have largely escaped the tragedy that has wrecked so many lives in the rest of the country. I have to think people outside those two states are seething under the surface and looking for better answers than the local conventional wisdom is giving them.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 08:35 PM
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17. Some of them don't even..
have anything but rightwing radio and no tv stations to mention..Some are still living in the sixties.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:47 PM
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4. There are some highly populated progressive/Dem areas, but lots of NC is still red.
Lots of one issue, hair trigger voters. Still plenty of latent racism, certainly homophobia. Churches everywhere preaching right wing spin, I suspect. Not sure if Obama can pull it off this time here in NC....but we will do what we can!
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:49 PM
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5. It sure is here. Part of the state has incredible wealth and R, and the rest of the state
is rural and uninformed R IMO. Depending on what happens in 2012, I might move. Some days I just wish the US was regionalized into mostly R and mostly D, something like that. I guess some people just loved the Bush days and want it all back so badly. It's a totally F'ed up country anymore IMO.

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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:54 PM
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6. Affirmative..
I've completely given up even trying to talk politics with locals, I feel like Canute holding back the tide, it's just hopeless.

Obama's pretty much a socialist Muslim Kenyan atheist fascist around here..

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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:57 PM
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7. I never understood that.
Why do they vote against their own self-interests? I agreed with Obama's comment about their "clinging to their guns and religion". Sounds exactly like the conservatives that I know about!
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 10:25 PM
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10. Low IQ.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 10:24 AM
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11. Mainly hate...
and they think that they are better than most or work harder than most..They think they are superior.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 09:58 PM
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8. Yup. Even more so in some places
There's no cure for stupid except education, and they're making that impossible, too.
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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 10:29 AM
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12. The corporate-owned media would like you to believe their little fantasies:
THEY LIE.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 11:19 AM
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13. They say this shit ...
over and over then many believe it and don't vote.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 11:35 AM
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14. Yes.. also many formerly purple areas
In my area, I think a lot has to do with increased influence of Gen X. Raised on Reagan and bible belt fundamentalism, people my age seem to have originally labeled themselves conservative in order to join a club of "righteousness and prosperity."
The Gen xers in local and state politics in MO are hard core RWers. On the other hand, there are some Ys who are Democrats. As Xers have gotten older, the state has turned redder.
We are now in a situation where yuppies and holier than thou Gen Xers have more power and possibly outnumber those of us who actually care about our country.
I'm not sure how this trend figures at the federal level, but I do know that the most notorious national example is Paul Ryan, who is in his early 40s.
Thankfully, the Ys and millennials are showing signs of better things to come.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:36 PM
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15. This is one reason...
that republicons hate education,unless they are doing the teaching with lies...
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 08:41 PM
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18. Today's "young Republicons" may be worse than the old ones. They're disgusting.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 10:41 PM
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19. They think its a joke..
they are being paid well,some of them don't have a clue.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:41 PM
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16. Yep. Redder than ever. n/t
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Zax2me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 10:54 PM
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20. Not from the recent election results from last two years.
It's puke win after win and 2012 doesn't look any better.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:45 PM
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21. They are working ...
to in the election precincts stealing elections..
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