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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:45 AM
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Good god...when Dems won a special election in a GOP district, no big deal...
Now that the GOP won one in the district of a serial creep, it spells the end of the entire Democratic party, AND the president. BTW, why does Peggy Noonan get paid to spout her assholier-than-thou bullshit? Who does she work for, and why?
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Arthur3284 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:48 AM
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1. When did dems win in a GOP district?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:51 AM
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2. That northern NY district that hadn't gone Dem since the 1800's.
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Arthur3284 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:52 AM
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3. When did they win it?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:55 AM
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6. see link -
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 07:11 AM
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8. A special House election made the papers on the other side of the pond?
Pretty effectively answers the OP, doesn't it?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 11:45 AM
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9. Not really . . . it didn't get much play in the U.S. press.
If it wasn't for the UK Guardian we wouldn't know what was going on in this country.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 07:18 AM
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13. Really?
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2011/05/25/136629935/democrat-kathy-hochul-wins-ny-special-election-for-house-seat
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/25/us-usa-campaign-newyork-idUSTRE74O0HO20110525
http://www.thenation.com/blog/160915/kathy-hochul-wins-ny-26-paul-ryans-medicare-plan-costs-gop-house-seat

It not only was covered, but it was spun as evidence that the tide was turning back and that using Medicare as an issue was a winning strategy for Democrats... that Ryan's plan had already cost the GOP one seat.

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:07 PM
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14. The Nation - lefty, NPR - lefty, Reuters - UK.
I don't recall hearing it 24/7 on CNN, MSNBC or Faux, but I don't hear everything.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 01:24 PM
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17. Ok... CNN/MSNBC/Faux it is.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 02:22 PM
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18. You proved your point, but you must admit the MSM generally
covers events on the right far more enthusiastically than events on the left. 5 teabaggers will get satellite trucks lined up on the street, but a thousand lefties are generally ignored. For example, I haven't seen the Fighting Bob Fest anywhere other than Olbermann's show on Current.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:52 AM
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4. Amazing isn't it
Liberal media my ass!
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:54 AM
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5. Welcome to America since Ronaldus Maximus..
Didn't Nooners have some kind of affair with a publisher to start her career?

Or am I confusing her with some other talentless hack?
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Arthur3284 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:57 AM
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7. Well, dems won the special election in May 2011 when Obama's poll numbers were better
You do have a point though and perhaps you're right. The scary thing though is that Obama's poll numbers were much better in May 2011 than they are now. His approval rating could be the deciding factor. Although there were a number of other factors that could have determined the outcome as well.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/14/for-democrats-its-2010-all-over-again/

These numbers contrast with a May special election in New York’s upstate 26th Congressional District, a Republican-leaning seat where the Democrat, Kathy Hochul, won. Her 5-point victory margin represented a 17-point Democratic swing from what would be expected from the district under average circumstances.

Ms. Hochul’s victory should not be forgotten about, as it’s a sign of how volatile the results in individual elections can be, and how rapidly the political climate can shift. That election was held at a time when Mr. Obama’s standing was relatively strong in national polls, following the news that Osama bin Laden had been killed.

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 11:46 AM
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10. It's only one election in one district too
Does it occur to these President obsessed pundits that it might be about that district? They make everything about the President.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 11:49 AM
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11. That was discussed here on DU and elsewhere. Not sure what
your point is. We watched the results airc and cheered for the Dem at the time.

So, I think you just missed it.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 11:56 AM
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12. Our media has been and remains the biggest threat to democracy. n/t
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:08 PM
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15. Actually, I remember that being a pretty big deal. nt
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:16 PM
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16. This kind of thing could be quantified I'm sure
I follow politics fairly closely and I remember hearing a lot about NY-26. From my armchair perspective, the coverage for both seems similar. But then again, I follow these things and I was interested in both stories, so I sought out information on both. There are plenty of people out there who don't follow politics all that closely. Many of them probably haven't heard of either one.
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