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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:02 PM
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Libertarians should quit using our socialized currency, and make their own currency.
They're hypocrites. They want all the benefits of government, but they don't want to pay for it. If they hate free lunches, then they should quit eating them.

If Libertarians don't want to pay taxes, then they should create and print their own money, and then try to convince people it has value. They can call it Freedom-Bucks. If they have no legal tender, then their taxes should be dramatically reduced. They will be free from the oppression of paying their share to live in a society.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:03 PM
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1. I am pretty sure that is illegal.
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 08:47 PM
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15. Actually it's not.
The city of Itasca NY has been doing something like it for quite some time. All money is fiat. It is, however not a replacement for paying taxes or other public debts.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 10:20 PM
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16. Tell that to Bernard von NotHaus.
OPINIONMARCH 31, 2011
When Private Money Becomes a Felony Offense
The popular revolt against a declining dollar leads to a curious conviction.


The next chapter in the struggle over sound money may be the case of a newly minted felon named Bernard von NotHaus. Mr. von NotHaus was convicted this month of counterfeiting money by issuing silver coins called Liberty Dollars. His company's website says it's been taken down by court order, and absent a successful appeal he could spend years in jail.

Mr. von NotHaus was convicted under a section of the United States Code that makes it a crime to manufacture or pass "any coins of gold or silver or other metal, or alloys of metals, intended for use as current money, whether in the resemblance of coins of the United States or of foreign countries, or of original design." The law was enacted during the Civil War, soon after the Union began issuing the paper scrip known as greenbacks.

It is too soon to say what Mr. von NotHaus's grounds of appeal will be, but it is not too soon to say that his case will be one to watch at a time when so many believe our economic troubles are tied to the fact that the dollar has become a fiat currency, and when leaders world-wide are calling for a new reserve currency.

So alarming has been the collapse of the dollar that the legislatures in as many as a dozen American states are considering using their authority—under Article 1, Section 10 of the Constitution—to make legal tender out of gold and silver coins. Lest the ghost of Friedrich Hayek or any other advocate of privately issued money get any bright ideas, however, the von NotHaus verdict will stand as a warning.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704425804576220383673608952.html
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:48 PM
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17. I think we are talking about different things.
In my case they have designed a parallel economy using Ithica (sorry for the typo in my last post) bucks. It is a service exchange.

Liberty bucks is printing money. Of course I feel the same way about the fed.
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:04 PM
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2. Librarians too
I check out books for free. Damnit.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:11 PM
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8. Dem damned Librarians is the ones votin' fer Paul
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:06 PM
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3. Let them carry around their own oxygen and not breathe oxygen of the commons
If we ever colonize other planets or moons, a descedent of Ron Paul will probably argue that anyone who runs out of her/his own oxygen supply should have to suffer the consequences.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:06 PM
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4. They already tried.
They were called Liberty Dollars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Dollar

The government was NOT happy.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:10 PM
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7. Holy shit, that is funny. I was pretty close with the Freedom-Bucks. nt
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banned from Kos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:07 PM
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5. Good suggestion! Unfortunately they tried it via the Liberty Dollar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_dollar

when the courts locked up the founder of this "currency".
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:08 PM
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6. They already have one ...
the Bulschit!

They are circulating hundreds and thousands of Bulschits. It seems that they are getting a good rate of exchange for the Bulschits they spend.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:13 PM
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9. Has there ever been a Libertarian government?
I don't think so.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:16 PM
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10. It looks like Somalia is giving it a go
The results don't look very promising, though. And oddly enough, the rugged individualists like Dr. Paul aren't abandoning the repressive environs of the United States to breathe the free and unsullied by any law air of Somalia.

Rather puzzling.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:34 PM
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11. I think that's where their racism comes in...
Ya know, Somalia would be fine if only they had a white male Teabagger with a copy of Atlas Shrugged to run things. :sarcasm:
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:40 PM
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12. They can't and I think they'd prefer to use gold or some such thing.
While others would probably list currency as a legitimate role of government.

It probably depends on how close their beliefs are to anarchy.
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ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:02 PM
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13. Capital (L)ibertarians
...are nothing more than Republicans without the religious pretense.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 08:24 PM
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14. The saying I've heard is....
"Libertarians are just Republicans who like to smoke weed and look at porn."
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