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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:28 PM
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OH SHIT: Obama’s assault on health care (Obama to propose massive cuts to Medicare and Medicaid?)
I don't even know what to say about this.


Obama’s assault on health care
Joseph Kishore
16 September 2011

The Obama administration is preparing to release next week a proposal for hundreds of billions of dollars in cuts to federal health care programs, including Medicare and Medicaid. These cuts will have catastrophic consequences for the American people.

The proposed cuts will be submitted to the congressional “super committee” tasked with finding at least $1.5 trillion in deficit-reducing measures. Obama is urging the committee, established by the bill passed August 2 to raise the debt ceiling, to go far beyond its mandate, putting in place cuts that previously would have been considered politically impossible.

The committee itself embodies the anti-democratic nature of the attack on health care being spearheaded by the Obama administration. It is designed to impose massively unpopular measures over the heads of the people.

Among the likely proposals is an increase in the age of eligibility for Medicare and cuts in federal funding for Medicaid. Both these measures, initially proposed by Obama during negotiations over the debt ceiling, will deprive millions of Americans of access to basic health care. The administration also called for changes in the cost of living formula for Social Security that will reduce payments to retirees.

Read more: http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/sep2011/pers-s16.shtml
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YellowCosmicSun Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:29 PM
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1. Nope. But that won't stop many from crying wolf.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 07:06 PM
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22. And from posting another flurry of links from dung-flinging sites like WSWS.
Which the next time it gets a fact right will be the first. They've been proclaiming how Obama is going to declare fascism tomorrow since six minutes before his inaugural.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:31 PM
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2. Oh FFS....
:eyes:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:31 PM
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:33 PM
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4.  OMG OMG What is that a Commie newspaper or something?!
:D

Just thought I'd get that out of the way

K&R
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:38 PM
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5. Um... "World Socialist".... yes.... it might was well be "News of the World" as far as accuracy.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:39 PM
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:40 PM
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7. Anything from WSWS is essentially an opinion piece
be advised.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:41 PM
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8. WSWS is a fantastic website
Edited on Fri Sep-16-11 06:41 PM by Cali_Democrat
Very informative. They've been right about pretty much everything. From the endless wars to illegal wiretapping and election fraud. They are definitely on point.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:49 PM
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11. Misspelled: Should be WSWS is a fantasy website.
There...that's better.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:55 PM
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16. fantastic being the key word here. As in unbelievable.
they've been right about very little and they flat out lie. they're agenda driven even more than the Wall Street Journal. Really it's more akin to World Nut Daily than any other outlet.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:50 PM
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13. I agree with leftstreet, scheming daemons -- Cali_Democrat
is a good guy, the troll remark was pretty mean. And unwarranted.

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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 07:13 PM
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23. doesn't seem like a good guy to me
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 07:35 PM
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24. Regardless, hinting that a long-time DUer is troll-ish isn't
right, IMO.

There are lots of people here I don't consider "good guys", but I'd never use the word troll in a comment about their post.

We're supposed to be on the same team. Why can't we just honestly criticize another's choice of post or choice of reference rather than attacking the DUer?

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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 07:48 PM
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26. I'm really a very nice person
Edited on Fri Sep-16-11 07:49 PM by Cali_Democrat
I'm sure you are as well. :hi:
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 07:48 PM
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27. Thanks gately!
:hi:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:53 PM
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15. it's a piece of shit unreliable newspaper. that's the problem.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:43 PM
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9. From the Ministry of Disinformation. Unrec. nt
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:48 PM
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10. Unattributed Obama-bashing, as usual.
No, thank you very much.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:49 PM
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12. Ahahah. Unrec for wsws...
Edited on Fri Sep-16-11 06:51 PM by SidDithers
:rofl:

Thought that "source" went the way of the dodo when Hannah Bell ate pizza. Glad to see some are still keeping the dream alive.

Sid
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:57 PM
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17. you have to be completely idealogically blinded
to swallow most of the, er, stuff that WSD prints.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:58 PM
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18. Are we not allowed to post articles from WSWS?
Is it against the rules or something?
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 07:00 PM
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19. No rule against it...
just as there's no rule against laughing at the stuff posted from it.

Sid
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:50 PM
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14. worldsocialistnutdaily. sorry, this is not a reliable souce.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 07:01 PM
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20. unrec for bogus source.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 07:01 PM
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21. High spending on Medicare/medicaid is not the same as delivering high
Edited on Fri Sep-16-11 07:02 PM by hedgehog
quality care to those dependent on Medicare/Medicaid. If money is being siphoned off somewhere between the patient and the government, and Obama finds a way to stop people from profiteering, then he can cut spending without cutting care. In fact, there may be room to improve care while saving money.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 07:48 PM
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25. Sounds like he's just going after the BIG PHARMA...read this:
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