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Sat Sep-17-11 02:02 AM
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War is not Liberation. Period. |
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Edited on Sat Sep-17-11 02:24 AM by denem
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Sat Sep-17-11 02:24 AM
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Edited on Sat Sep-17-11 02:44 AM by denem
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Sat Sep-17-11 02:58 AM
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2. I'll be sure to inform Generals Washington and De Gaulle. nt |
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Sat Sep-17-11 10:56 AM
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15. The OP is Nazi propaganda from 1944. See #1 |
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Sat Sep-17-11 04:01 PM
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18. Ah. I couldn't get the image to load. nt |
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Sat Sep-17-11 03:26 AM
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absolutism is generally pretty silly.
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Sat Sep-17-11 10:53 AM
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13. Well ... The irony of posting a Nazi Propaganda poster |
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followed by the photos in #1 seems to have fallen flat
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Sat Sep-17-11 03:39 AM
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4. As one who hs been to war and seen--and felt--its horrors intimately, I am antiwar |
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But one thing I've come to understand is that there are things worth fighting for, and there are things worth dying for. Liberation is one of them.
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Sat Sep-17-11 03:49 AM
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5. IMO, war definitely is not liberation, but liberty cannot be gained without a battle. |
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Wars can be fought for liberty or for oppression, they can go either way.
The current battle that most people are fighting to attain liberty is a lack of clean drinking water, rampant disease, climate change. Disease, for example, kills one WWII worth of people every 5 years.
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Sat Sep-17-11 04:18 AM
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6. War CAN mean liberation for those who are oppressed |
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The current "battles" you list (perhaps "challenges" would be a better word) are not examples of state oppression, but they all are things that can lead, rightly or wrongly, to war.
International intervention (a term much-denigrated at the moment) is a way to to meet these challenges and--hopefully--to prevent unnecessary war.
Love & Peace, pinboy3niner
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Sat Sep-17-11 04:53 AM
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7. I think we're in agreement. |
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Sat Sep-17-11 05:14 AM
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8. I never doubted it for a moment |
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Sat Sep-17-11 05:17 AM
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9. oh dear, we will need to rewrite all history books with this new revelation. |
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Sat Sep-17-11 05:19 AM
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Sat Sep-17-11 05:26 AM
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11. the french would probably disagree... |
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as well as the "founding fathers" of the country you sleep peacefully in.
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Sat Sep-17-11 10:48 AM
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Sat Sep-17-11 10:54 AM
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14. It was for the inmates of Auschwitz (nt) |
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Sat Sep-17-11 10:59 AM
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16. "Arbeit macht frei" nt. |
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Sat Sep-17-11 04:07 PM
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19. The American Revolutionaries would disagree. n/t |
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Sat Sep-17-11 05:18 PM
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20. Period is a joke right? |
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Sat Sep-17-11 05:23 PM
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21. That depends on whether you are the invader or the invadee. |
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