Stinky The Clown
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Mon Sep-19-11 06:18 PM
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This president has a history |
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Edited on Mon Sep-19-11 06:19 PM by Stinky The Clown
In light of the current talk of cuts to Medicare and Medicaid, I am instantly taken back to the run up to the passing of the healthcare "reform" bill. It started with Obama himself talking about plain old single payer. Lots of people like to deny that he ever spoke of this, but most us know, really, that just isn't the truth.
From there, we went to that wonderful, ill defined term, the "public option." That was the plan that was so vague that we were all free to imagine it smelling like roses. We still don't really know what it was, specifically. Yes, there are lots of places where it is purported to be defined, but, again, we all know it really was pretty amorphous.
So now we're on to Medicare and Medicaid.
There will be "negotiations" with Congress.
I have no confidence that Obama has peoples' back on this.
Groups of you will call this hand wringing. I call it a realistic assumption of one possible outcome.
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Mon Sep-19-11 06:29 PM
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I don't listen to this president because I can't believe him.
And since I can't believe him I don't trust him.
He has not been my champion.
Why should I expect that to change?
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Mon Sep-19-11 06:44 PM
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5. Buy ACME, I guess? n/t |
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Mon Sep-19-11 06:58 PM
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6. Is that a Wile E. Coyote reference? |
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Mon Sep-19-11 07:11 PM
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8. What gave me away? n/t |
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Mon Sep-19-11 07:24 PM
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is cheap imported Chinese crap made by kids working in a sweatshop.
Dangerous stuff and it doesn't work particularly well.
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Mon Sep-19-11 06:33 PM
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4. I am on Medicare and I'd like to point out the fact that.... |
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it only really covers "big box" medicine. IOW, if I want homeopathic, herbal, acupuncuture, I have to pay myself. I'm not really happy with that. I pay almost $100 for Medicare, but still spend $100 for Traditional Chinese Medicine, which includes acupuncture, diet, exercise and herbs. I have had better results with TCM than Big Box, but it comes out of my pocket.
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Mon Sep-19-11 07:07 PM
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7. Unfortunately all too true. |
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Mon Sep-19-11 07:28 PM
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10. Well if U sit on your hands, be ready for rick perry to give U & EVEN BIGGER SHAFT! |
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OR HELP ELECT A DEMOCRAT CONGRESS to HELP OBAMA KEEP HIS PROMISES TO US!
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Mon Sep-19-11 08:08 PM
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11. thought I smelled a dead horse in here |
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Tue Sep-20-11 12:57 AM
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15. be ready for rick perry to give U an EVEN BIGGER SHAFT! |
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OR HELP ELECT A DEMOCRAT CONGRESS too to HELP OBAMA KEEP HIS PROMISES TO US!
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Mon Sep-19-11 08:42 PM
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12. Frankly I call it "peral clutching" |
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and you're one of the best. Hats off to ya!!
Julie
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Tue Sep-20-11 04:32 AM
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Tue Sep-20-11 07:27 AM
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25. "Peral" clutching usual has to do with matters like porn or ..... |
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.... Presidential blow jobs. That is not my concern with Obama .... Or anyone else.
Have a swell day, Julie. :hi:
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Mon Sep-19-11 08:54 PM
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I do have confidence in Obama. It's the congress who does not have 'peoples' back.
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Mon Sep-19-11 11:39 PM
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14. The carefully parsed language is back. He won't allow the deficit to be born by ONLY the middle |
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class. He will veto any bill that reduces social benefits that doesn't ALSO increase taxes on the wealthy. Start at the wildly unbalanced status quo, then split things even Steven.
I hear people raising the tired "just wait" rationale. We will, because we have no choice. But the painfully precise language is no accident.
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Tue Sep-20-11 01:12 AM
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16. tap dancing as fast as you can, are ya??? |
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Tue Sep-20-11 07:24 AM
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24. Actually it is one foot in front of the other |
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Tue Sep-20-11 09:31 PM
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28. I'm not - your cognitive dissonance is audible from here. |
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and I'm hard of hearing....
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Tue Sep-20-11 02:04 AM
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17. POTUS Obama has lost the benefit out doubt about intentions for many. nt |
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Tue Sep-20-11 10:29 PM
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31. Just as valid as saying "I had Tuna fish for lunch" |
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Wed Sep-21-11 08:56 PM
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34. Don't you read DU? We are political junkies, |
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many that have paid attention for decades or multiple generations.
I have given you a pass at DU for years. My life experience far surpasses yours as evidents because of your age and avatar.
Disappointed. Why insult me? We are one the same side I think.
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Thu Sep-22-11 12:52 AM
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35. LOL.....your life experience is subject to your own bloviation, |
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Thanks for giving me a pass, I will pass gas in your honor here in just a minute
:hurts:
Your grand prognostications are humorous, and little else.
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Tue Sep-20-11 04:15 AM
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20. Obama: "I happen to be a proponent of single-payer universal health care" |
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Edited on Tue Sep-20-11 04:18 AM by bananas
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Stinky The Clown
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Tue Sep-20-11 07:22 AM
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22. Man oh man but some people hate when that gets posted |
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They love to whine that he never favored single payer. But there it is. Again!
Thanks for posting that.
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Tue Sep-20-11 02:01 PM
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Tue Sep-20-11 09:34 PM
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30. You are COMPLETELY right, Bluebear - AND, he's NEVER going to let DADT get overturned, either |
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Tue Sep-20-11 07:23 AM
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23. Obama was also never going to let DADT end ... I'm reminded of that today. |
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Tue Sep-20-11 07:53 AM
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Ya know it's a done deal, the theatrics will decide the final form.
The only question is whether the Republicans can get the TPs to go along with a miniscule symbolic hike in taxes on the wealthy, a trifle really, or if the 'Super' gets to wield the meat ax itself.
All of the powers in DC work against the people.
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Tue Sep-20-11 10:30 PM
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32. Ah, bullshit. Another fact free screed. |
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Edited on Tue Sep-20-11 10:31 PM by cliffordu
Yawn.
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Tue Sep-20-11 10:31 PM
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33. I remember and I BELIEVED, Stinky |
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