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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 08:46 AM
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(incoming) House intel chairman: Execute WikiLeaks soldier
unhappycamper note: Since the ‘Pentagon’ (DoD? Gannett?) has ‘requested’ that I only post one paragraph from articles on Army Times, and Airforce Times, To keep in that same (new) tradition, I will also do the same for for articles on Navy Times, Marine Corps Times, stripes.com and military.com.
To read the article in the military's own words, you will need to click the link.

Read all about Fair Use here. It sure is beginning to smell like fascism.

unhappycamper summary of this article: Nice to see the repubs stating their agenda. :sarcasm:




House intel chairman: Execute WikiLeaks soldier
By Rick Maze - Staff writer
Posted : Wednesday Dec 15, 2010 19:08:17 EST

A former Army officer who has called for the execution of a soldier charged with leaking classified documents has been tapped by Republicans to head the House Intelligence Committee next year.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 08:48 AM
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1. Who votes for these people. That's just embarrassing. n/t
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 10:58 AM
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13. Lansing, Michigan and surrounding areas.
Yes, it's embarrassing. He won without running a single campaign ad, and the Dems had trouble finding someone to run against him. The first guy dropped out right away, and the second guy couldn't raise any money. I have no idea why he's popular.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 11:02 AM
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17. I though MI was more blue than that.
:)
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 11:07 AM
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19. Unfortunately, it went very red this last election, but Rogers has
been re-elected many times. Many small towns surround Lansing and they are mostly redder than red with red necks. I know voters in Lansing who voted against Virg Bernero for Governor because they wanted him to remain Mayor of Lansing. I guess we're stupid that way. :shrug:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 08:49 AM
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The republicon Inquistion is just getting underway
Edited on Thu Dec-16-10 08:51 AM by SpiralHawk
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 08:49 AM
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2. G. Gordon Liddy would have said the same thing.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 08:55 AM
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3. The maximum punishment under UCMJ is execution so if convicted the request is valid.
Edited on Thu Dec-16-10 09:11 AM by Statistical
99% chance the govt will instead seek reduction in rank to E-1, forfeiture of all pay & allowances, and confinement in military prison system for the rest of his natural life without the possibility of parole.

What civilians often forget is violations of UCMJ are tried in a court martial and you are judged by your peers (6 enlisted and 6 officers form the jury). Generally speaking releasing a quarter million classified documents to a foreign entity during a time of war isn't a smart strategy.

Sadly he was just used and discarded by wikileaks. I assume he thought he would be protected.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:00 AM
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6. The government can seek all it wants but all they have
is the testimony of a convicted hacker with a psychiatric history.

And there is no basis for your claim that he was "use and discarded" by wikileaks. Wikileas didn't approach him and they controlled no part of this process.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:08 AM
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8. That isn't "all" the govt has. Have you worked on the SIPRNET? I have.
Everything you do is logged. I mean everything. Every file you access, every action you take, every movement of the mouse, every keystroke pressed.

They can a complete audit log of everything he did that day from the moment he sat down at his workstation to the moment he left with quarter million classified documents he removed from a classified network.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:19 AM
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9. Unless you've seen that log, you don't know if they have it.
An administration that would leave this material sitting around at the disposable of hundreds of thousands if not millions of users may be no better at record keeping than they are at other kinds of security.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:34 AM
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10. It isn't an admins choice.
The system logs everything, logging can't be turned off, and the logs aren't kept locally.
There is a server farm in Nebraska that does nothing but store SIPRNET (and NMCI) logs.

Still it **might** be possible the log went missing but you claim that "all" the govt has is still dubious because you don't know for sure the log is missing.

We will see in the trial but the SIPRNET records everything for this exact reason.

As far as granting him access... he is an analyst he should have access. What is impossible to believe is that there was no audit system in place that looked for statistical anomalies. Using usage statistics the system could say 95% of the time junior enlisted intel analysts acess less than 92.7 documents per day. HOLY SHIT this guy is accessing 2500x the normal usage rate. Maybe we should send a warm body there to see if there is an issue.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 11:01 AM
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15. Right, not using a IDS/ IPS
system to mine logs was a very bad call.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 10:59 AM
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14. syslog server will hang bradass.
i know for a FACT that network uses syslog server for nodes. not catching it upfront is piss poor security.
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NobodyHere Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 11:29 AM
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21. When was war declared?
But to clear up an inaccuracy, a jury doesn't have to consist of 6 officers and 6 enlisted. Manning can request an all enlisted jury (who are all above him in rank), an all officer jury, and or just leave it to the judge to decide.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 08:56 AM
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4. The end of the article did say that Rogers will have no power over military decisions...
but, as we know, this isn't an absolute when thugs are involved.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 08:57 AM
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5. Posturing buffoon. nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:03 AM
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7. fffffffffffffffffff
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:48 AM
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11. When did a paragraph become one sentence?
'Sorry, but all the fair use qualifiers got me off track.

Is there no one around to smack down such irresponsible RETHUGs when they say this crap?
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 11:01 AM
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16. When that one sentence is the entire 1st paragraph of the article.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 11:03 AM
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18. Show me where the requirements state this?
LA, once again can't contain himself from speaking for everyone else. :eyes:
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 10:40 AM
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12. That's my congresscretin. He won re-election by a wide margin AND
never even had a single ad on tv. If he spent a dime on his campaign, it never saw the light of day. Horrible person. :cry:
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kgnu_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 11:18 AM
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20. Violent and stupid criminal is coming to town
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