I believe Barack Obama will rise to the challenge...

[kentuck]

Many progressives have given up on him. They say he talks a good game but doesn't walk the walk. He has let the right-wing Republicans walk all over him. Many, including myself, have been disappointed many times by this President.

But, I believe he has finally seen the light about trying to work with this Republican Party. His natural tendency is to work with them and try to come to a compromise, but to no avail. It has been a long learning process for him, in my opinion, .

Perhaps it is only wishful thinking on my part? However, I believe the President understands that the large majority of the American people support increasing taxes on the wealthy. The tax code in this country has become unreasonable and unfair. It must be fixed.

If the President wants to take the Fair Deal II to the American people, they will be behind him and will support his re-election. It is not about "class warfare". It is about fairness and equity in our tax code. Most Americans understand that.

If the Republicans do not wish to compromise, the President will take this issue thru the election and he will win. The Republicans would be wise to work out a compromise but it is not within their capacity to do so. They have painted themselves into a corner and all they can do is wait for the paint to dry...

[mdmc]

1. he will deliver as well as the big dog did

He won't disappoint me..

[RKP5637]

2. I think he's finally realized he gave compromise a great try, but the R's don't

give a damn and will never work with him. It's given him some good examples to use wherein the R's obstructed everything and NO NO NO.
I am hopeful!!!

[Dragonfli]

3. I think he has risen for election season and will fade after /nt

[Booster]

4. I hate to agree, but must. Timing is too suspicious.

[tblue]

27. "Significantly increase what seniors pay for premiums, copays & deductibles"

starting in 2017.

90% of cuts to Medicare will be in payments to service providers such as drug companies, hospitals, nursing homes."

$248B CUTS TO MEDICARE IN OBAMA'S PLAN.

PLUS $73B CUTS TO MEDICAID.


I am typing here (on my phone) what I'm reading in my local paper, story from NYT/AP this morning. If you need a link, I'll find one when I get to my computer.

Just how deluded are we supposed to be?

[Dragonfli]

34. I was aware of that, but I noticed few here are paying attention to his policies, also

Very few appear to recognize his Jobs plan as being mostly authored by the Chamber of Commerce
http://www.uschamber.com/sites/default/files/110905_jobs_letter.pdf (it is a PDF, so your phone may not be able to format it)

His policies (with the exception of proposed tax increases) are all trickle down and yet we are supposed to support the GOP policies now that a "Democrat" has adopted GOP economic theories, economic theories that got us where we are today.

It is surreal how most of DU has taken to Republican policies now as if they are supposed to be Democratic.
We are supposed to cheer on the coming feudalism for no other reason given besides party loyalty.

[Solomon]

5. aw put a sock in it.

He had to set the republicans up by offering compromise. Its insulting to say "he's learned", or "finally seen the light". If he had done what many here wanted him to do, we'd be nowhere.

Stop trying to take credit for his strategy when he wad continually bashed for it. The record could have only been made by offering compromise. If Americans still wanna vote republican after Obama exposed them with his strategy, then its not his fault. It's the stupidity and meaness of Americans.

[kentuck]

6. Wow!

Only you knew he was playing chess all along. And the rest of us were fools. I guess that is why you are "Solomon"??

I hope this is not just out of political necessity, although I know much of it is. I hope he lives up to our expectations. I hope all his other deal-making was just to set up the Republicans.

I sincerely hope so.

[RickFromMN]

13. I hope President Obama wasn't playing chess. Those chess pieces were real people's lives.

[Solomon]

33. i said nothing about playing chess.

You did. It's very simple. He knows republicans are gonna say no to whatever he proposes. And yes, there are some of us who kept saying that it was the correct strategy. I got tired of being beat down for saying it thru all the whining going on. I should have bookmarked my threads. Long ago I said he was going to wrap it up by offering a jobs bill that republicans will say no to. It's not rocket. science or chess.

The republicans will be very lucky if some bridge doesn't fall between now and election day. It that happens they are toast. I'm a lawyer, and just because you know somebody is going to say no to something you propose, doesn't mean you're wasting your time proposing it. You have to do it to make the record.
Maybe I am smarter, or maybe I can just see past my nose. But we'd be nowhere if he'd blustered before the record was made.u

Until the democrats get control of everything, offering compromise is the correct way to go in this climate.

It's only chess to you. To those of us who have more patience, its more simple than checkers.

[kentuck]

40. If you are suggesting he should have waited until now to go on offense...

I think you are wrong. I agree with the direction he is now going and many suggested that from the beginning and I think we would have been better off, rather than wasting time trying to negotiate with the Republicans. Also, I think he would have been stornger politically. What "record" are you talking about?? Voters don't remember "records".

[Skittles]

7. "Obama exposed them with his strategy"

:rofl:

WTF - ANY THINK PERSON DID NOT NEED EXPOSURE TO REPUKES - WE FIGURED THEM OUT DURING THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION

[kentuck]

8. That is a good one...

Isn't it?

:-)

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[NNN0LHI]

14. Figured them out during the Clinton administration?

You didn't have the Republicans figured out after the 8 years of Reagan and 4 of years of Bush that proceeded Clinton?

:banghead:

Don

[Skittles]

30. SCEDULING MYSELF FOR ASS-KICKING

you are correct, it was initially REAGAN, who made GREED AND STUPIDITY fashionable, who first made me realize how much repukes STINK

[Solomon]

37. yeah. the american voting piblic really

Had them figured out. That's why they keep voting for them right?

You guys think you're so fucking smart.

The record had to be made. You can't see it cause your nose is in the way.

I for one am glad he didn't listen to the sniping and whining, you all complain that he's republican, yet you want him to act like one.

[kentuck]

41. Talk about arrogant!

:-)

What record had to be made??

[Number23]

22. +44(2)

Stop trying to take credit for his strategy when he wad continually bashed for it.

:headbang:

[JanMichael]

24. Wad up!? nt

[Number23]

26. lol Aside from that typo, it was a very good post

:)

[Solomon]

38. hey im typing on a phone.

Very difficult. LOL

[KoKo]

9. Yes...there's always hope and I see that "The Nation" and Others are very upbeat about Obama's "New

Stance" in dealing with the Repugs.

It's all very upbeat ...and I hear: "Thank God! He's finally listening to the folks that Emmanuel Trashed..and I hear, "He finally Understands" and "He's going to "Clean the Repugs Clock!"

I remain a skeptic. He's always good on the Campaign Trail...but watch what he does and not what he says.

Just waiting and watching.

Been sold down the river too long........too long..........

[kentuck]

11. I guess some of us cling to hope...

that he will rise to the occasion and go down as an historic President.

[Skittles]

12. I still do, kentuck

I've always harbored that hope

[kentuck]

16. I have been pretty critical at times...

But I have always wanted him to succeed and be a great President. I think he was off track for a long time but I think he is back on course, even though I suspect it is mostly for political purposes. Sometimes I think those that were the most disappointed in him were the ones that were most supportive of him from the beginning?

[Skittles]

28. aw f*** I DESPERATELY WANT HIM TO SUCCEED

the bragging rights I would have in Texas would be PHENOMENAL :D

[KoKo]

31. That's an excellent political statement, Kentuck.

Again...I understand where you are coming from.. EOM. and :-) It's not good if too many folks give up hope. It's demoralizing to our spirit. So, yeah...I get it.

[KoKo]

18. Yes...I understand how you feel that way, Kentuck. But, hopefully you also understand

why I feel the way I do.

[kentuck]

19. Absolutely!

You are a realist. :-)

[RickFromMN]

15. We must have hope. The Republicans had their chance and created the mess. Don't want them again.

[bluestate10]

17. President Obama seems to have finally realized that he can't compromise

with political terrorists. It is not a change of heart as much as it is a turn toward commonsense. My sense is that the changed cast of advisers around President Obama have finally gotten through to him and had him see the obvious light. I am so optimistic about this turn of events that I have started contributing to his campaign again after holding off out of concern over his compromising with people that were openly hostile to him.

[gulliver]

20. The Republicans are out of box-cutters.

There's nothing Republicans can use to "block the country to death" if they don't get their way. The budget is passed and the debt ceiling is raised.

[KoKo]

32. lol's and the dems still seek..."spine." Seems like a "draw" to me...

but then..I'm just a curmudgeon cynic...who knows nothing... :-)'s

[gateley]

21. I believe it too, kentuck. He realizes what's at stake -- and I

don't just mean his political future. I firmly believe he cares about our country and its people, and he knows what the future would hold for us should the Republicans prevail.

[KoKo]

23. He has a golden life..no matter what happens to him. I weep no tears for him...

I just want him to get his "BUTT IN GEAR!" for US! I'm not hopeful about that ...as I said above.

But, Obama, Michelle and the adorable children will have no wants or clouds on them...no matter how this election turns out. AND...He KNOWS THAT...

He has to choose...the GOOD LIFE for Him and Family or US..the People who VOTED FOR HIM as the LAST HOPE ....imho...

[gateley]

51. That's what I was saying, I believe he's going do the RIGHT THING. nt

[bluestateguy]

25. Obama is a great fighter---in election campaigns

In governing, not so much. At all.

[KoKo]

35. What will a Second Term under Obama look like?

I worry about that. Remember what Clinton went through..and put this country through as we defending him against the "Blue Dress" that so many of us thought was a Fake RW SCAM...but, turned out to be true.

In the Meantime Clinton Administration put through reforms that helped contribute to what we are living through today with his "DeRegulation of Trade, Banks and even pushed through Welfare Reform throwing thousands of Women with families out of means to sustain them.

Plus bombings and other stuff.

I loved Bill Clinton...but, after he got elected things changed beyween the man who ran and his campaign and what he became. And, yes, I know about Starr Commission and how the RW went against Hillary saying she murdered Vince Foster. I lost friends over defending him against it all. I've watched Obama and worry about another Clinton.

The Clintons are doing very well...however...if anyone notices...given what the country went through with them and what came after. :-( :cry:

I never want to go through that again.

[bluestateguy]

36. Possibly like Bill Clinton's 2nd term

And if it comes to that, I think we could expect the Republic members of Congress to drum up some bullshit and pursue impeachment.

Although if we could have that late 90's economy again it might mitigate some of the frustration.

[KoKo]

43. lol's..Like the "Dot Com Bubble".maybe "Green Energy" gives a boost? Or, Bush's "Housing Bubble"

Those were "Good Times"...weren't they. It's the aftermath that led to the sorrow and the lost jobs...and hopes and dreams...since we as a nation went through two/both...maybe there's a third. A Boost!.. A rabbit out of a hat..once again. Based on fake.

[kentuck]

42. Don't feel bad...

I ran for Congress and the blue dress against the Chairman of the House Ethics Committee in the same district as Focus on the Family... :-)

[KoKo]

45. that's a heavy deal....with "focus on the family" up against it, too...

ugh. How little things change.

[kentuck]

46. Great timing on my part...

And I defended Bill Clinton during the campaign... :-)

[KoKo]

52. ...well, there you go...that was a bad omen right there...

:D Defending Bill Clinton at that time.

Now...you would be golden.

[Little Star]

29. I pray you are right & I am wrong......

I believe the only thing that has changed is he needs to get re-elected. Hope I'm wrong.

[undeterred]

39. When will he work with the Democratic party?

Anybody home?

[dbt]

44. I hope that he does. HOWEVER, he has given me NO REASON

to believe in anything he says. Whatever he manages to accomplish between now and the Supposed Election of 2012 will be in spite of his track record since Inauguration Day 2009--and in spite of the fucking BUBBLE he has chosen to live in after he gave us all those great speeches so we'd vote for him.

Whatever he does from last January on will be without my support, efforts and/or contributions. I went in that booth to vote for John Shaft and I came out having voted for Steve Urkel.

[MrMickeysMom]

47. It's times like this, I think of Agent Mulder...

I can't quite, but still ...

[kentuck]

50. A picture is worth a thousand words...

Very nice!

[FrenchieCat]

48. I believe that Pres. Obama did what he needed to do......

because from this point on, the corporate media can't call him unreasonable,
because we all witnessed him being more than reasonable. Every corner of this earth
heard the dig about him being called weak and the Caver-in-Chief, etc....

...Soooo now, after all of that, if we wants to kick a little GOP ass, even while the GOP will make us wait for what the country needs, this Pres. cannot ever be
faulted for not trying to cooperate or of being hyper-partisan.

Barack Obama is a much more patient man than most of us will ever understand or appreciate,
and there is a reason why patience is considered a virtue.

If you haven't, read this..... http://extremeliberal.wordpress.com/2011/09/11/misinterpreting-a-man%E2%80%99s-strength-is-our-weakness-not-his/

[kentuck]

49. He has the patience of Job...

definitely...

[Fumesucker]

55. Some of us are drowning out here..

If you're going down for the third time patience doesn't seem quite so much of a virtue in a leader..

[AverageJoe90]

53. Amen to all that!

If Obama can play even half of his cards right, no amount of dirty tricks will be likely to save the Repubs come 2012.

[Rex]

54. I believe he will be the POTUS in 2013.

[Firebrand Gary]

56. My confidence has grown substantially. Here's why

Every time President Obama takes a winning argument to the people, the Republican party freaks out and scrambles to change the conversation. So instead of talking about jobs, the economy or a grand deal to bring down the deficit. The GOP wants to talk about an issue they believe is a winning one for them. Israel.

However I am pretty confident that the Jewish community will disagree with the GOP here.