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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 07:02 PM
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update: Woman who stabbed intruder now being investigated
Edited on Tue Sep-20-11 07:02 PM by Liberal_in_LA
'Self-defense' stabber held on suspicion of murder

The woman who told San Francisco police that she had fatally stabbed a man after he broke into her Bayview home has been arrested on suspicion of murder, police said today.

Athena Wortham, 42, told police that she heard noises in her apartment on the 700 block of Kirkwood Avenue at about 4:47 a.m. Sunday, and that when she investigated she was confronted by a man who tried to choke her.

Wortham used a knife to stab the man, 40-year-old Anthony Payne of San Francisco, police said.

Investigators are looking into whether Wortham and Payne had a previous relationship, said police spokesman Officer Carlos Manfredi. Although she has been arrested, they are also still looking into whether she was acting in self-defense, he said.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/20/BAK21L71DV.DTL#ixzz1YXZuOPbZ


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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 07:09 PM
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1. So how does that make what she did not self defense?
Does self defense no longer count if it's a crazy ex-boyfriend?

This is the sort of shit that they do in England, arresting people who defend themselves and charge them with murder. It's the primary reason we have such robust self-defense laws in the US, and frankly I'm disappointed in the SFPD.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 07:11 PM
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2. if she lied to the police, it's suspicious.
think about it.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 07:11 PM
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3. CORRECT
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Ben Gay Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 07:18 PM
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4. Where is the evidence...or the claim that she lied to the police?
I can't seem to locate that.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 07:19 PM
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5. Read what I wrote again.
Then, if you have a logical objection to that statement, have at it.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 07:24 PM
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6. If she dipped the knife in poison before stabbing him, it's very suspicious. eom
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 07:25 PM
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7. It's easy enough to check Anthony's record
If he has no criminal history and lives in SF it's unlikely he's going to start randomly breaking into homes and choking women. Aren't people in S.F. mostly all wealthy? Why would he need to be breaking into homes?
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Recovered Repug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 07:47 PM
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8. I suppose they are operating on the theory that she may have
set him up in some way. She calls him over for some reason and then kills him because he was an "intruder". Maybe I watch too many cop shows.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 07:52 PM
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9. Oh hold it, I was ASSURED this would not happen in the US
:hide:
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