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banned from Kos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:28 PM Original message |
What is a liberal today? How are progressives different? |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. Liberalism. |
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banned from Kos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Agree. I am only trying to inspire conversation on the topic. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. Progressives are liberals who are willing to fight back |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. That's funny, since I always saw using "progressive" as a cop-out. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
4. I think one of the basic traits of Liberality is inclusiveness, but that same trait also implies |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
5. To me, Progressive is based upon progressing, moving forward, which takes strength. |
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banned from Kos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Beautiful description - I like it a lot. Progressives push where liberals |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. Thanks! I worry about that word a little, because it could be taken kind of as "getting things done" |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
6. Progressives are Liberals on steroids.... |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Hey, I'm a Liberal and I smell okay, but . . . yeah, that plant-based soap DOES require more frequen |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
7. Liberals support free trade? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. "Trade" is not the same thing as "free trade." |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. The OP quotes wikipedia, 'free trade' |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. And the OP said trade, not free trade, in QUALIFYING the Wikipedia quote. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Actually that is exactly what free trade means... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. No, it means "free trade" as in not restricted by tariff used for protectionism. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. So when liberals rant against 'free trade' they mean everything but the original concept? |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. LOL! |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. "Free trade" is sort of like "Christianity." |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Why not, if it were an authentically even field, i.e. no encumbrences, so the advantages of some |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Those are some big 'if's you've got there |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. What is Germany doing with it's manufacturing & trade policies? They are THE source of goods |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Also not to mention that something less than 30 years ago they adopted an entire debtor nation, |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. delete to move |
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FarLeftFist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
13. All Progressives are also Liberals but not all Liberals are Progressives. |
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FarLeftFist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
14. I would like to add VERY Pro-Workers Rights and Unionism. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. Strongly agreed! To me, the notion of authentic functional integration implies that some compensatio |
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